Very interesting. Do you have a macro setting on your camera you can get up close and personal with too? Any more markings on the side of the receiver, tang, under the barrel? Very odd. Never seen anything like it. More pics might help?
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It's inA PRIVATE collection and we are looking for info and maybe a buyer....collector ONLY....But, like anyone else .weare trying to get some history of the markings no tang pics but;it is 1948 on tang ...best pics for now and any place you can direct me would be greatly appreciated..Thank you all.........HINT: S.O.G.= Southern Ohio Gun!!!!!!!..GREETINGS From the Buckeye State!!!!!!
If that is a picture of it in your second post, there is something missing on the mag, thats for sure. That is very interesting if that is a correct date. I can't find any marks in my book either that match the square with an x in it, or that have the same pattern as the BC 43. More pics with a macro setting on the camera might help up close.
Is the triangle and arrow partially ground off? It does look abnormally large. If it is ground, it could possibly be the work of the Finns. But the other marks make it more confusing. Is there an SA stamp on the receiver anywhere near the stock line?
Lots of unknown stamps and markings here. It looks like the BC 43 kinda fits this pattern, but they aren't the same letters though: http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinMarks04.htm It might just be the unknown.
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Last edited by Iron_Colonel; 05-09-2009 at 01:38 AM.
Found several combinations that are all listed as unknown.
XO-47, XO-48, PM-86. Could be something like that. Here is the link. Unknown Mosin Nagant Marks
From my past research I have found that
the arsenal marks of Mosin Nagants are found on the barrel just forward of the top of the receiver and right behind the rear sight. These marks indicate the arsenal the weapon was produced in and have changed over the years. In addition to arsenal marks, you will find other marks or stampings. These include the date, serial number and property marks as well as various acceptance and proof marks and rebuild Marks. I have not been able to locate an authoritative resource for identifying the acceptance and proof marks as it appears, that individual armorers and inspectors used their own unique stamps in many cases.
As far as being a collector piece, I personally would say No...It is a round Receiver , late Model Izzy 91/30, with a rebuild twice Mark.
Not what most of us are looking for...
Rich
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Looks like something done in microsoft paint. If it is authentic, it is pretty interesting though whoever made the stamps for it were not very good at it.
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Looks like something done in microsoft paint. If it is authentic, it is pretty interesting though whoever made the stamps for it were not very good at it.
I believe the markings were enhanced so we could make them out more easily cremley.
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From all indications, some were converted to x39 for experimental purposes. I have never seen one, but it would make sense that there would have been an interest in this conversion in 1950.
Such a conversion would have had some challenges. Either the barrels would have to be set back and rechambered or the barrels replaced. The extractor, clip slot, magazine and feed system would also need some work.
In the end, I'm sure the Soviets just found it easier to keep the rifles in original 7.62x54R and keep a stockpile of ammo.
The rifle in question has a refurb stamp, so it's probably in standard 91/30 configuration. It's worth exploring the possibilities as it is so unique.
The US did convert some 03/A3 Springfield's and M1 Garands to 7.62x51 NATO. That conversion would not have been as difficult and more examples found their way into US civilian hands. In fact, my Dad had a Navy M1 rifle and a shooting buddy had an 03/A3 in 308. These rifles operated flawlessly through the magazines and were quite accurate.
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is that pic outlines on the rifle or later in photo shop? Cause it looks really crappy done(no off. if you did the highlighting on the PC =P)
there seems to be a grinding mark on under the white. If the real mark is that sloppy I think what that rifle might be is a "Valley Special".
Rifles that are made in Khyber Pass look almost real but they dont have the real stamps for sometimes they hand make them. As far as the mag...your guess is good as mine...
