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Old 05-11-2009, 02:24 AM   #1
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Post TEOTWAWKI Movies/Books

I enjoy these types of books and movies and was wondering which ones ya'll have found that are enjoyable/informative.
Movies: Books:
The Postman Wolf and Iron-Gordon R. Dickson
Red Dawn Farnham's Freehold-Robert Heinlein
Mad Max/Road Warrior
Waterworld
Reign of Fire
Steel Dawn

If ya'll have any recommendations, I would love to hear them!
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Old 05-11-2009, 08:19 AM   #2
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I know this will haunt me forever if I ask, but what is TEOTWAWKI?
The movies you list I didn't find informative at all but they were highly entertaining.
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Old 05-11-2009, 08:48 AM   #3
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TEOTWAWKI = "The End Of The World As We Know It." Shorthand for whatever apocalyptic scenario strikes your fancy. Covers everything from asteroid strike to worldwide disease epidemic with 90% or better gross mortality rate to global economic meltdown and collapse of all existing national governments, and anything in between. Pick your doomsday scenario and it will fit.
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Old 05-11-2009, 08:58 AM   #4
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One of my all time favorites and the book that got me into Prepping is "Lucifer's Hammer" by Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle. Written in the 70's.
Big comet strikes the Earth, mega-death all around, a small band of folks get together to survive, and some side stories of others dealing with it too.
Some biker-gang bandits for those who dig MZB action.
Some good ideas and tips in the book, for those who can pick them out.

Always wished they'd make a movie of it.
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:04 AM   #5
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Pretty much any large zombie movie (I.E. none of the cheap "small town" zombie movies). Im talking Resident Evil, Dawn of the Dead, etc, and pretty much any zombie book. I really like the zombie genre, because I like "monster" horror and I like survivalist entertainment, and zombies are really the only supernatural antagonist that one can survive using basic "survivalist" tools and techniques (tough trucks, guns, ammo, food, shelter, etc). In other horror flicks, death is really more about who is in the wrong place at the wrong time, which of the group of friends is the slowest, or which one is the black guy .

"Lights Out" is also a surprisingly good read also. It is a free PDF download that is around the internet. It is about an EMP attack, and while its primary purpose is entertainment, it brings up a lot of very real associated problems and solutions that I never would have thought about. If someone doesn't post a link I will upload it to my site later.
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:09 AM   #6
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Dawn of the Dead
I am Legend
Red Dawn
Terminator Salvation <-- No its not out yet but Im sure Ill like it.
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:42 AM   #7
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I know this will haunt me forever if I ask, but what is TEOTWAWKI?
The movies you list I didn't find informative at all but they were highly entertaining.
I'm glad you asked that. I thought I missed the meeting or the Memo on the meaning of TEOTWAWKI...
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:47 AM   #8
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I'm glad you asked that. I thought I missed the meeting or the Memo on the meaning of TEOTWAWKI...
Gah, newbs....






Oh and I uploaded Lights Out:
www.jacobmcdonald.com/host/LightsOut-Current.pdf

I keep it on the flash drive on my key ring and give it out to all my survivalist friends / relatives.
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Old 05-12-2009, 12:19 PM   #9
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I really like S.M Stirling's book Dies The Fire.
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Old 05-12-2009, 01:27 PM   #10
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The Lord of the Flies - the ultimate Survival story!
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Old 05-12-2009, 01:32 PM   #11
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We had to read the Lord of the Flies back in High School (74). I have to say it was better than when we had to read A Tale of Two Cities.
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Old 05-12-2009, 10:15 PM   #12
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For books I can recommend "Alas Babylon" by Pat Frank. Life in a small town in Florida after a nuclear exchange. It's set in about 1959, so some of the references are dated, but the basic issues of living in isolation in a small community are still valid.

A much grimmer view can be found in John Christopher's' "A Death of Grass" ("No Blade of Grass" in North America). Global viral outbreak that kills grass plants, including wheat, rye, corn, barley and rice.

Robert Heinlein's "Expanded Universe" includes a couple of good essays, and a short story.
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Old 05-12-2009, 11:50 PM   #13
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I'll throw in another vote for Heninlein's Farnham's Freehold. It looks into the necessity for survivors to work togther to get things back in order (and how things can go wrong).

Stephen King's The Stand is a good look how the S can hit the F and how folks (good guys and bad) could respond.

Another Heinlein book worth reading is Friday. It isn't a SHTF scenerio, but its abbout a very self sufficient lady, which is what we would all need to be.
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[QUOTE=Pope130;889153]For books I can recommend "Alas Babylon" by Pat Frank. Life in a small town in Florida after a nuclear exchange. It's set in about 1959, so some of the references are dated, but the basic issues of living in isolation in a small community are still valid.


Thank You!!! I read this book in High School and loved it. I couldn't remember the title or author to save my soul!

"On The Beach" by author unknown is pretty informative about the psychological effects of SHTF. It's a little dry, but still a good read.
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One of my all time favorites and the book that got me into Prepping is "Lucifer's Hammer" by Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle. Written in the 70's.
Big comet strikes the Earth, mega-death all around, a small band of folks get together to survive, and some side stories of others dealing with it too.
Some biker-gang bandits for those who dig MZB action.
Some good ideas and tips in the book, for those who can pick them out.
Always wished they'd make a movie of it.
Lucifer's Hammer is truly great. I remember the scene where one of the main characters was going through his library picking and choosing which books to preserve, which he did by sealing them in ziplock bags after spraying them with bug spray, like I had read it yesterday.
Also was the line about the woman who had a .44 blackhawk loaded with five different types of ammo.
And I can still remember laughing out loud about the military puberty men thinking they were gonna become kings thanks to their weapons, only to revert to cannibalism in 2 weeks after the farmers fought them off!
Anyone remotely interested in survival should read Lucifer's Hammer.

Farnam's Freehold started out pretty good, then bogged down in Heinlien's obsessions about incestuous relationships.
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Old 05-13-2009, 09:25 AM   #16
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try William w john stones he wrote a series of books
Series Synopsis

The Ashes series is fiction, with the events and stories primarily occuring after a Nuclear/Biological war between America, Russia and China. The main character is General Ben Raines, a writer before the war, and the reluctant leader of Raine's Rebels after the war. The Rebels are a collection of like-minded individuals who believe in responsibility, honesty and self-defense. The Rebels set up a autonomous society (The Tri-states) after the war, booting out all of the bleeding heart liberals, welfare cases and criminals, while the remaining residents become citizen-soldiers. The remnants of the federal government are infuriated, and end up invading and detroying the Tri-States, after which the federal government totally collapses and anarchy reigns.

Ben Raines and a select group of Rebels begin again, settling in the Southeast U.S. to establish the Southern United States of America (SUSA), meanwhile scavenging and stockpiling weapons, tanks, planes, and all manner of supplies. Law-abiding, decent Americans flock to the area, swelling the ranks of the Rebels. This is followed by years of fighting gangs, criminals and Night People (Cannibalistic people who mainly congregate in cities, and raise and eat humans). The Rebels end up demolishing many of the great cities of America, but finally finish off most of the Night People and gang activity.
Meanwhile, the former United States is established based on an ultra-liberal model, and various confrontations take place between the US and the SUSA. The ultra-liberal set in the US keep urging the attack and anniahlation of the SUSA, but since the Rebels have almost all of the former equipment of the USA, the existence of the SUSA is assured. Eventually a peace of sorts is reached.
Elsewhere, the United Nations has reformed, and is looking for a force to help re-establish civilization throughout the world. In return for formal recognition of the SUSA, Ben Raines and the Rebels agree to serve as a U.N. force, as long as the fighting is done the Rebel way (no pussyfooting allowed), and the newly freed countries are allowed to take command of their own destinies. With that, the Rebels start the liberation of Europe from the same elements they were used to fighting, aka criminal gangs and the Night People. In addition, they fight a new german dictator of the Fourth Reich, eventually winning, although they suspect that the dictator got away, and is now setting up in Africa.
While finishing off the forces of fascism in Europe, the SUSA is overrun by thugs, criminals and welfare cases. Ben Raines and the Rebels hurry home to clear the invaders from the SUSA, and to begin the hard task of clearing the criminals and Night People from the rubble of America. But while clearing the scum from America, the Rebels encounter a new threat in the form of Simon Border. To millions of men and women, Simon Border is a saint who has the inside track to God. Border has condemned Raines as the Antichrist and has vowed to destroy him, his followers and what remains of America. Although Ben is tiring from all the fighting he has been through, he knows that Border will never be content, and will always be a threat to the SUSA. The Rebels fight Border's forces and triumph. The rebels get no rest, however, as Ben learns that Bruno Bottger and his neo-Nazi armies are in Southern Africa, and are on the verge of turning Hitler's nightmare into a new reality. Ben knows he must crush this threat to the SUSA before it has a chance to percolate
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Swans Song by Robert R. McCammon.

If you liked "The Stand" You'll LOVE this book!

Book of Revelation by the apostle John.

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I have not read all of the books mentioned, but one that I highly recommend that was recently released in a new and updated edition was Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse, by James Rawles. It can be picked up at Amazon and is about an economic collapse in the US that results in a breakdown of society. People form groups and settle at a retreat to survive. It gives lots of great information and ideas for preppers. Also, it is relatively inexpensive to buy, at around $10 USD.
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Old 05-13-2009, 08:36 PM   #19
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Johnstone's "Ashes" series is really good for the first six or eight books, then bogs down and becomes repetitious. When the new UN cons Raines into taking his force into Africa, it gets to the point that Johnstone is just writing by rote. I have the first two dozen or so books. There is a good synopsis book to that gives a rundown on the entire series.
I am reading his westerns now - "Preacher" is a true survivor in the old mold. A Mountain Man with a mean streak, a strong sense of honor and a wild sense of humor!

James Axler's "Deathlands" series is a good read too, though much more 'out there'. A small band of friends roming Post-Apocalyptic Earth about 100 years in the future. Cities exist as "villes", armed citystates each ruled by a "Baron". Outside these enclaves, it's a jungle filled with all manner of weird mutant animals and 'people'. Axler is a gun enthusiast, but I do catch him up in a technical error on occasion. They seem to be able to always find MREs and ammo still fresh and usable.......
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Ck out Patriots by James Wesley Rawles
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