States That Ticket Aggressively and Restrictive Gun Laws
What do these two subjects have in common?
More than you might think.
A term we see used here at G&G when referring to states with oppressive and/or restrictive gun laws is "the Peoples Democratic Republic of ..." plus the name of the offending state. We all know which states qualify for that epithet; California, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New York, Illinois, New Jersey are the worst.
Your attention is invited to the following list, compiled by the National Motorists Association.
From worst to best states to drive in:
1. New Jersey
2. Ohio
3. Maryland
4. Louisiana
5. New York 6. Illinois 7. Delaware 8. Virginia 9. Washington 10. Massachusetts 11. Colorado 12. Oregon
13. Tennessee
14. California 15. Michigan 16. Vermont 17. Maine
18. Florida 19. Pennsylvania 20. North Carolina 21. Alabama 22. Rhode Island
23. West Virginia
24. New Hampshire 25. Arizona 26. New Mexico 27. Missouri 28. Texas 29. Oklahoma 30. Nevada 31. Georgia 32. Connecticut 33. South Carolina 34. Iowa 35. Hawaii 36. Arkansas 37. Alaska 38. Kansas 39. Mississippi 40. Wisconsin 41. Utah 42. South Dakota 43. Indiana 44. Minnesota 45. North Dakota 46. Kentucky 47. Nebraska 48. Montana 49. Idaho 50. Wyoming
The criteria the Association, which leans toward personal responsibility and accountability along lines espoused by libertarians, used to create the list include 17 different factors, according to the msnbc.com report. Among them are the use of red light cameras, speed traps, speed limits, and whether vehicular offenders have the right to a jury trial as opposed to a hearing in front of a judge only. It also includes the use of traffic laws as a revenue generating device by cities and towns.
If you would like to read the article, here is the link:
With the exception of Connecticut, which clocks in at 32, the rest of the Peoples Democratic Republics are in the Top 15 Worst States for Drivers. Four of the six are in the Top Ten.
Now far be it from me to suggest that the fact most of the Peoples Democratic Republic states are out to create good little subjects by regulating their rights and lives to death. That's a whole lot of soup to make from two onions, even two onions as large as gun rights and aggressive enforcement of traffic laws, "for their own good," of course.
On the other hand, I do feel the connection between oppressive gun laws and oppressive traffic policing is there to be seen. Your mileage may vary. It is, however, something to keep in mind if you have occasion to drive in or through a Peoples Democratic Republic state.
So lemme see now, I will be transprting 4 rifles and 3 handguns with LOTS of ammo through NM, CO, NE, SD, WY and MT in June. Hope I don't make the news. We did OK last year with the same load out.
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Im glad to live in Wyoming cause...well it owns??? , kinda drunk now...listening to the Sugar Hill Gang - Rapper's Delight! , anyways Wyoming owns, so does Montana and the Dakotas and Colorado. Ode To The Rockies.
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I also notice that some of the worst states for ticketing are gun-friendly states--like Virginia, for instance. It's number 8, compared to California's number 14. Colorado is also ahead of California. I think it's a stretch to try to link the two subjects, and come up with some sort of generality.
By the way: unless they've changed a whole lot in the last few years, I guarantee Arizona won't be number 25 on that list if you're wearing California plates. They used to like to brag about how many Californians they had nailed...
Well AH, we're #37. We have safety zones in dangerous areas that are DOUBLE fines and DOuBLE points. You think the tourists would read and heed ?? NOPE !! I say ticket them all !! That's why they are SAFETY zones !! Just slow down.
Completely different story when a city cop does a sliding U turn in the middle of a red light ( aka Dukes of Hazard) to write me a ticket because my front license was on my dash instead of mounted on my bumper !! I looked at him in total disbelief !! THAT's why you stopped me? Are you f'ing CRAZY !! Are you in the running for top tickets this month ?? Are you really needing that gift card to Dunkin Donuts ?? OK, OK !! Not too subtle... $100 fine. So much for ticket them all, LOL !!
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Last edited by SwedeSteve; 05-24-2009 at 01:25 AM.
I am shocked that Nebraska is at 47. They must only look at in state drivers for this info. On a 50-60 mile stretch of I80 if you drive a SUV, Minivan or, Pickup and have out of state plates dont give them a reason to pull you over.They most likely will search the veh. This stretch is between the NE,IA state line and Lincoln and I have seen in a 10 hour work day up to 6 different searches with K-9.I will say this they stop alot of drugs comming through and the people they catch range from young to old and any and every race.
I'd bump Georgia up on the list too - those Ga. State Troopers cut you NO slack! Florida is very gun-friendly, but this list makes us out to be bad for drivers. Just DON'T outrun traffic or the FHP, you got no problems.
Like Troy says - there is NO correlation between this and gun-friendliness. Apples and Watermelons......
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I am shocked that Nebraska is at 47. They must only look at in state drivers for this info. On a 50-60 mile stretch of I80 if you drive a SUV, Minivan or, Pickup and have out of state plates dont give them a reason to pull you over.They most likely will search the veh. This stretch is between the NE,IA state line and Lincoln and I have seen in a 10 hour work day up to 6 different searches with K-9.I will say this they stop alot of drugs coming through and the people they catch range from young to old and any and every race.
Yeah I was gonna say the drug highway thing, you beat me to it, but NE state bears are pretty cool. I have been going 85 on the interstate and blazed through radar and they don't really care. As long as its 10 over or below they seem to be ok with it. I think we also just passed a law reducing the fines in construction zones if workers are not present. The roughest stretch is the interstate between Omaha and Lincoln.
Yeah I was gonna say the drug highway thing, you beat me to it, but NE state bears are pretty cool. I have been going 85 on the interstate and blazed through radar and they don't really care. As long as its 10 over or below they seem to be ok with it. I think we also just passed a law reducing the fines in construction zones if workers are not present. The roughest stretch is the interstate between Omaha and Lincoln.
They should have left the law as was. Some of those zones are miles long and you never know if somebody is working till you are on top of them I'm a little biased on this as I work for Hawkins. The main company out there rebuilding 80 in this area.
Around here the police seem to target sports cars and muscle cars more than anything else. the speed limit says 65, and most people drive 68 or 70 and the cops ignore it - unless you're driving a sports car. You see them pulling over Porsches, Alfas, the sporty 2-seater Benzes, and classic muscle cars like the Manta Ray 'Vettes and the antique and current production Mustangs all the time. The almost never pull over minivans or SUVs.
Of course, the minivan engines don't have the power to push that much mass, mostly. The speedometer may go up to 120, but I've never met anyone who has driven one at much more than 72 for an extended period. I had Clifford the Big Red Car up to 87 once, for passing; but that's as high as I'd care to take the silly thing.
Of course, the minivan engines don't have the power to push that much mass, mostly. The speedometer may go up to 120, but I've never met anyone who has driven one at much more than 72 for an extended period. I had Clifford the Big Red Car up to 87 once, for passing; but that's as high as I'd care to take the silly thing.
Most cars can go far faster than they cap out at. The ECM on cars is programed to limit your max speed to what the factory tires are rated for. My Dakota for instance came with tires rated at 87 MPH and for several years that was the fastest it could go, when I got to 87 it would sound like the engine was cutting in and out. I then had a chance to get a super tuner from a friend for cheap that was selling his Dakota. I removed the speed limit cap and I can go well over 100, however its very scary, that truck was not designed for 100.
Well, I prefer the 'stealthy' approach, after having driven muscle cars for years and getting tagged a couple times (rightfully, as I WAS speeding!).
So now, my car is the "Anonymous Little White Car" as a co-worker calls it - the Toyota Tercel four-banger. I think the cops simply can't believe such a small unassuming car with the Big Guy in it can go fast enough to be illegal......
(And they are, for the most part, right!)
Ditto my KLR650 bike - nobody looks for a glorified over-weight underpowered dirtbike to be speeding on the highways.
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If you want speedtrap, red light timing traps, and
any other possible excuse to give a driver a ticket then go to New Mexico.
I used to live there. Somehow, the state police could not understand the lack of public support.
Louisiana Number 4! Now why does that fail to disquiet me?
answer: Louisiana was/is/ and always will be the "best" good ole boy" state in the Union. I do not say this lightly nor proudly.
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