Since I have started following Obama and his insatiable quest for power, I have believed that he will, at the very least, try to find a way to stay beyond two terms. At worst, force it. Call me paranoid, but a lot of people I know agree.
Considering the lengths needed to repeal the 22nd (2/3 both houses of Congress AND 3/4 of the states' legislatures agreement), it would have to be forced. I can't imagine we'd ever repeal it.
But I expect Acorn will be out there trying to rally support, when the time comes.
I never thought I'd see the day when a President made Clinton's shenanigans look like amateur hour. It's happened.
__________________ There's a time to think and a time to act, this gentlemen, is no time to think. -Sheriff Bud Boomer
On the term limit note, I wrote my reps about that topic. I only got a response from one (Senator Brown-D OH). He said that such a thing was unconstitutional.
Considering my letter asked that he introduce legislation to begin the process to amend the Constitution, something tells me someone didn't quite get what I was suggesting. They obviously threw me an answer hoping I didn't know better.
I responded that an amendment that passes through the process to amend the Constitution cannot possibly be unconstitutional--it BECOMES the Constitution.
They're idiots. And they all treat us like stupid children.
We got change, alright, just the wrong direction.
__________________ There's a time to think and a time to act, this gentlemen, is no time to think. -Sheriff Bud Boomer
The 22nd amendment was passed by Republicans, because of FDR. And they almost immediately developed a bad case of buyer's remorse, when they realized it was also going to lock Republicans like Eisenhower out of a third term.
One side or the other has been trying to repeal it ever since. The last time any Republicans made a lot of noise about it was during Reagan's term, and probably the last time any democrats seriously pushed it was during Clinton's terms.
Ain't gonna happen, any more than an amendment allowing foreign-born citizens to become president is going to happen.
Since I have started following Obama and his insatiable quest for power, I have believed that he will, at the very least, try to find a way to stay beyond two terms. At worst, force it. Call me paranoid, but a lot of people I know agree.
You do realize how many people on the far left said that about Bush II, right?
I take it about as seriously now as I did then.
You're paranoid, but I say it nicely. And you asked.
I'm still wondering about this "insatiable quest for power" that Obama is showing. I haven't seen it. And weren't people not that long ago deriding him as a bumbling incompetent, so wet behind the ears and inexperienced he was incapable of making decisions?
How did he get so quickly from there to becoming a Machiavellian Evil Overlord, picking out harp concertos on the strings of power?
Yes, txplt, you're paranoid. As Coel points out: remember all the people (some of them on G & G) who were predicting Bush would manufacture a crisis or another attack on us, so he could cancel the election and stay in office as a dictator? Never happened, did it?
The 22nd amendment was passed by Republicans, because of FDR. And they almost immediately developed a bad case of buyer's remorse, when they realized it was also going to lock Republicans like Eisenhower out of a third term.
One side or the other has been trying to repeal it ever since. The last time any Republicans made a lot of noise about it was during Reagan's term, and probably the last time any democrats seriously pushed it was during Clinton's terms.
Ain't gonna happen, any more than an amendment allowing foreign-born citizens to become president is going to happen.
What you said, Troy. People do forget Congress can't arbitrarily repeal Constitutional Amendments; we'd have lost our gun rights years ago if they could.
First, whoever is sponsoring a new Constitutional amendment has to get his amendment past Congress.
Second, if that happens, and it seldom does, the clock starts ticking. A proposed amendment has seven years from date of passage to be adopted by three-quarters of the states (a total of 38 states) in a referendum by each state.
If the proposed referendum does not get the required number of yea votes from the states, the referendum dies. This is the fate of almost all of the proposed amendments that manage to get past the first step.
Do you really think a country as polarized as the United States is at the moment, with a president who does not have anything even faintly resembling a mandate, would pass an amendment as potentially dangerous as what Serrano wants to do, with a president as distrusted as the current occupant of the White House?
Serrano may get some press by pushing this proposed amendment, but if he can even manage to get a proposed amendment to repeal the term limits on Presidents out of the Congress I would be very surprised.
I'm still wondering about this "insatiable quest for power" that Obama is showing. I haven't seen it. And weren't people not that long ago deriding him as a bumbling incompetent, so wet behind the ears and inexperienced he was incapable of making decisions?
How did he get so quickly from there to becoming a Machiavellian Evil Overlord, picking out harp concertos on the strings of power?
Yes, txplt, you're paranoid. As Coel points out: remember all the people (some of them on G & G) who were predicting Bush would manufacture a crisis or another attack on us, so he could cancel the election and stay in office as a dictator? Never happened, did it?
Troy! My buddy...last time I was on the board you said you weren't going to post anymore. Guess you changed your mind, eh?
Yeah, I'm back, too (for a while). I get bored on some other sites and have to drop by once in a while.
As for the topic...my Lord. Are you serious? With the immense amount of money he's spent and rampant government growth and intervention, you think he isn't thirst for power? The man is as vast as his deficit.
The man named his dog "Bo" for God's sake. Barack Obama. Tell me he isn't an ego freak. He thinks he can do it all. Some might call that a god complex. Gods don't like to let go of power. DSM-IV lists 9 attributes of someone with a god complex. I can only see one that he MIGHT not have.
Nobody ever said he couldn't make decisions. I said he couldn't make good ones. He hasn't accomplished much in the way of all his promises (honest, transparency, etc.) and he's burned hundreds of billions of our dollars without effect (yet...inflation is on the way, though).
P.S. Is it true that he just quietly changed the policy on lobbyists in his administration? I heard that today...a reversal that nobody reports because it looks bad. The media has indeed become his state-run media.
__________________ There's a time to think and a time to act, this gentlemen, is no time to think. -Sheriff Bud Boomer
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Troy! My buddy...last time I was on the board you said you weren't going to post anymore. Guess you changed your mind, eh?
Yeah, I'm back, too (for a while). I get bored on some other sites and have to drop by once in a while.
As for the topic...my Lord. Are you serious? With the immense amount of money he's spent and rampant government growth and intervention, you think he isn't thirst for power? The man is as vast as his deficit.
The man named his dog "Bo" for God's sake. Barack Obama. Tell me he isn't an ego freak. He thinks he can do it all. Some might call that a god complex. Gods don't like to let go of power. DSM-IV lists 9 attributes of someone with a god complex. I can only see one that he MIGHT not have.
Nobody ever said he couldn't make decisions. I said he couldn't make good ones. He hasn't accomplished much in the way of all his promises (honest, transparency, etc.) and he's burned hundreds of billions of our dollars without effect (yet...inflation is on the way, though).
P.S. Is it true that he just quietly changed the policy on lobbyists in his administration? I heard that today...a reversal that nobody reports because it looks bad. The media has indeed become his state-run media.
I've been holding the posting down to a minimum in the Powder Keg; I don't like the touchy-feelie, over-sensitive PC moderating. I never stopped in the other forums.
"Rampant government growth?" Bush was the one who grew the government. What has Obama added to it? I don't see anything at all like Homeland Security and TSA being foisted off on us.
Spending money isn't necessarily indicative of a thirst for power. He isn't spending it on marble palaces with gold bathroom fixtures; he's following the advice of some very serious economists and financial experts, trying to break another Great Depression before it gets started.
You're claiming he's an ego freak because he named his dog Bo? That one's pretty flimsy. I named myself SirBadDad when I was playing against my kids on Age of Empires...and I had TROYK (short for Troy's truck) for my personal plates on a pickup for years. Does that make me an ego freak?
And some people have a short memory, but one of the biggest raps people were laying on Obama when he was running was that he couldn't and wouldn't make decisions; he weaseled his way out every time. Turned out to be bs, didn't it?
A God complex? Oh, Lord. I get so tired of all the amateur, long-range psychiatric analysis of political figures; it's all utter nonsense.
Nothing new about the lobbyist situation; I started reading about his problems with that (in the so-called mainstream drive-by media) before he even took office. The trouble is that it's very hard to find anyone with expertise in certain fields who didn't get that expertise by being there and being part of it. And if someone is also known in Washington, it's probably because they've worked there. So there's always a potential conflict of interest.
But from what I've read, Obama hasn't let the foxes into the hen house nearly as badly as Clinton and the Bush's did. He's bowed to reality and bent his own rules, but he hasn't abandoned the general premise any more than he apparently thought necessary.
