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Old 07-07-2009, 03:52 AM   #41
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Love the collection.

Several questions

1) Am I wrong in remembering that New Zealand has some EXTREMELY restrictive laws regarding handguns?
2) Why are you missing part of the gas system on the VZ-58s? Does NZ also restrict Semi-Auto centrefire rifles?


That all being said, I am looking into getting a bunch of CZ's soon, starting with a VZ-52 (Despite the problems regarding availability of ammunition). I think that the Czech rifles are some of the most beautiful rifles in the world.
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:48 AM   #42
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Amazing collection and pics there. It must have taken a while for you to post all of those pictures. Worth it though. I am not really in to Czech firearms but I do own a CZ82, and I love it. Its a great well balanced pistol for sure. I didn't notice one in your collection?
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You are quite correct. While I have others, several are not in any of these photos, I do not have an 82. As I said this is a start of a collection. I do realise that there are many that I don’t have and I do hope to one day get a decent collection together.
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Old 07-07-2009, 06:56 AM   #43
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1) Restrictive yes, EXTREMLY no. If you jump through all the hoops and keep things on the straight and narrow then it’s not impossible. There are many things that we conform to that are different than you guys have. Over all, it’s not all bad. In fact we even like to think that there are some benefits to things being a bit restrictive. Perhaps it makes it a bit harder for the creeps that don’t deserve to have firearms. There are a lot of extra police checks so not all firearms owners can get them.

2) There are several NZ laws surrounding military style selective fire’s. The 58’s are not just semi auto but also full auto. While all the walls and ceiling of my room are steel lined and the room is surrounded with security inside and out I also take extra precautions with the full autos and handguns. The handguns are in a safe fixed to the floor and I put the bolts of the full autos in the safe as well. No harm in being extra careful. Good spotting by the way.

Great to see you are getting a “bunch” of CZ’s soon. How many are in a bunch? The last handful of Czechs I got came from the USA. Took about 2 ½ years to get them out as well so I guess you guys have your own problems. There was no problem for me bring them into NZ other than getting you guys to let them go.

Ten came in that handful including three anniversary models. A 550 70th anniversary 30-06, one of 500 to be made. It is the only one known to escape from Europe and it has been doubted that they ever made the full 500. There was also a CZ 75 anniversary 9mm, one of 1000 made. Another was the 452 70th anniversary model of which only 70 were made. All 70 went to the USA and I think I have the only one to escape from you guys. It sits next to my 50th edition 452 which is very similar.
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Old 07-07-2009, 07:24 PM   #44
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I didn't notice that they were select fire and not the semi-autos that are prevalent here. Nice!

And with regards to the NZ laws, might I have been getting them mixed up with the Australian laws regarding handgun ownership?
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Old 01-10-2010, 06:44 PM   #45
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CZ 452 22lr. Golden Anniversary. I own # 60 of #70.. Dovetail is 1/2" wide not 11mm

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Now the following are a little more different and are a little more uncommon. What’s the story behind the model two that is engraved. Maybe some of you guys know as I’m still learning all about what the Czech’s made. I certainly have never seen this one before and managed to grab it from Australia. A nice old pecar scope on it too.

Hope someone here can fill in the gaps on this one.



Model2 Left side



Model2 Under trigger



Model2 Under mag



Model2 Right side



Model2 Left side name



Model2 Left action2

Now the following are far easier to explain. The 50th anniversary was a model that CZ released only to the Australian and New Zealand market. A total of only 500 were made so they were a little hard to get. They made them to celebrate 50 years of the model two Brno hence they are marked 1955 to 2005. I managed to get mine quite easily as they came into NZ.





The 70th was a different story. This caused a lot of mystery in that it was referred to as the golden anniversary and was marked in the same way as the 50th with the only exceptions being. Where the first had 50 the second had 70 engraved. Where the 50th was marked 1955 to 2005 the 70th is marked 1936 to 2006. The 70th only went into the US and there were only 70 made. Where the 50th celebrated 50 years of the Brno model 2 through to the CZ 452 the 70th celebrated 70 years of CZ’s. This was far harder to get hold of as none (except mine) has ever made it into NZ and I believe that mine is the only one ever to escape the US.





The only other difference was that the screws under the action on the 50th are gold and the 70th screws are blued otherwise they are identical twins.
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Old 05-21-2010, 06:20 PM   #46
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I was surprised to see all the pistols you have. I thought Aussies had some pretty draconian handgun laws
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Old 05-22-2010, 12:44 AM   #47
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I was surprised to see all the pistols you have. I thought Aussies had some pretty draconian handgun laws

The term “Aussie” is usually used when referring to the Australians. I’m wondering why you would think that we would be controlled by their firearm laws?
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Old 05-22-2010, 01:57 AM   #48
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The term “Aussie” is usually used when referring to the Australians. I’m wondering why you would think that we would be controlled by their firearm laws?
Ah, you know how it goes with us Americans; everyone from the "bottom half" of the world is Australian. LOL
PaleHawkDown is just geographically challenged.


Serioulsy, that is a truly outstanding CZ collection.

Thankyou for sharing it with us.
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Old 05-22-2010, 08:59 PM   #49
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Gees… looking through those old pics on the first page makes me want to post the other half of them.

Nah… don’t worry I won’t bore you all to tears
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