i just got my mosin back from the gunsmith. I was getting it outfitted with a sidemount and rail from kalinka optics. the mount is way off set to the left and i have two questions about it. 1) Will this affect the zero as i get into longer ranges since the scope wont be directly above the barrel? Like if i go from 200 to 500 yards will the shots hit farther left or right because of this mis-allignment of the barrel and scope? 2) Are there cheek pieces made that i can just strap onto my stock so that my eye will line up with the off set scope? If not, what would you guys suggest i do to line my eye up?
You need to zero it in such a way that POI and POA are
offset in the same manner as your scope is offset (horizontally) relative to the bore. I bet it's just 1/4"-1/2" only, which falls within typical spread of most ammo. If it is more that that, you either used a wrong mount or your gunsmith had no idea what he was doing.
You need to zero it in such a way that POI and POA are
offset in the same manner as your scope is offset (horizontally) relative to the bore. I bet it's just 1/4"-1/2" only, which falls within typical spread of most ammo. If it is more that that, you either used a wrong mount or your gunsmith had no idea what he was doing.
No, the Kalinka mount sites off to the left. One reason I'm not using their Mosin Nagant mount. If I put a side rail mount on mine, it will be a low profile AK47 mount that should sit on center.
I don't know about Kalinka... but even the standard PU mount sits left of the bore. Yes it'll cause the POI to drift if you zero it at a certain distance.
I'm actually trying to Fab up a mount, using a cut PU bracket. Going to use a Weaver rail welded on sideways.. that'll allow the scope to sit directly above the bore.
EDIT: That's A LOT further left than a standard PU. wow.
Good looking setup you have there. I'm sure the offset mount will affect the zero to some extent but I don't know how much, probably the best way to find out is to shoot it.
The original scope on my PSL was offset like that but I swapped it out for a center mounted scope.
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Rifleman14, I have a Swiss K31 with the scope offset to the right, I zeroed
it at 100 yards. I then shot it at 200 yards ,and I didn't make any adjustments to the windage setting, It still shot true. It may not make as much of a difference as you think it will. If the scopering assy is made out of steel you could heat it up and bend closer to center,I would'nt move it to much though because your bolt doesn't have a real tight radius and may hit the mount. Good looking rifle I like it!
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that mount will except my rail. the one in the suggested products list is the one i have. if this mount is gonna do what i think it will with the windage being messed up at farther ranges then I'll try that one. I cant shoot until monday though because my neighbors have a mother in law over and her and her dog are sensitive to gun shots. I'll get a range report up monday though. If it will make a difference what do you guys think it will be? an inch or a foot or what?
Also, I've been tryin to get into stock work and would like to advertise. So if anyone wants a stock job on their wood stock rifle id be glad to help out. Maybe $40 or $50 if that sounds good.
Well is it's 1 inch off center from the bore now and it's sighted in at 100 yards, it makes sense that poi would be 1 inch to the right at 200 yards.
or maybe 2 inches off at 200 and 5 inches off at 500..you know the whole concept of moa. however its not dealing with clicks, its an offset. i guess i just have to shoot it and find out
or maybe 2 inches off at 200 and 5 inches off at 500..you know the whole concept of moa. however its not dealing with clicks, its an offset. i guess i just have to shoot it and find out
It'd be interesting to know how it plays out in reality.
Personally, I think it's not going to be a "set" error.. but an exponential one. IE: a "set" error would drift the grouping left 1in @200, 2 in @ 300, etc. (if zero'd at 100). BUT, exponentially would be worse.. since it's off at the barrel.. It'd be 1in @200, 2in @ 300, 4in @ 400, 16in @ 500, and so on. (only using 1in strictly for the sake of easy math..LOL)
Should get a pool going zero it at 100.. then place bets as to how far over a 5 shot group moves at 500...LOL.
well, assuming the angles are true, 1" offset mount zeroed at 100yds should be off that same inch at 200 yds, 2 inches at 300 yds, 4 @ 400, 8 @ 500....
Think of two straight lines intersecting.
If you're going to do most of your shooting at 100, leave it zeroed there. The other option would be to zero it at like 500 (or another "long" range), and between 100 and 500 you'd be off by an inch or less. However, good luck getting that kind of accurate zero at 500.
well, assuming the angles are true, 1" offset mount zeroed at 100yds should be off that same inch at 200 yds, 2 inches at 300 yds, 4 @ 400, 8 @ 500....
Think of two straight lines intersecting.
If you're going to do most of your shooting at 100, leave it zeroed there. The other option would be to zero it at like 500 (or another "long" range), and between 100 and 500 you'd be off by an inch or less. However, good luck getting that kind of accurate zero at 500.
Well i have my own 800 yard range but i'll be shooting at targets between 50 and 800 yards. So itd be a huge pain to have to adjust for windage even with no wind
i cant shoot until monday but when i do im gonna figure this out
im really hopin it works just like a scope in line with the barrel..
i just thought of something...the bullet is going straight out of the barrel so the scope has to match that. However, the scope is not directly over the barrel therefor the shot sould move to the left or right at greater distances(the bullet is a straight line and the scope, being offset to the left, has to be angled to intersect the bullets straight line). But i was thinking...the scope isnt a line its a picture or reticle. This two dimensional crosshair has to line up with the bullets trajectory and POI not a line from the scope. Would this affect the theory that at greater distances the shots would travel farther and farther to the right?
zero it at 100.. then place bets as to how far over a 5 shot group moves at 500...LOL.
