Hello I'm new here, and I wanted to ask your guy's opinion on some things. I've been reading a little bit here. I saw the Hi Point carbines in my local overpriced gun shop and thought they must be garbage, because they are all plastic, and they are not expensive like everything else in the store. However I've been reading your guy's threads and it seem I misjudged the carbines.
What I want is a good low priced, reliable gun that shoots a not so expensive deer legal round, and I want to keep it simple, so no scopes(they are a pain in the butt when you don't have the tools or talent to sight them in), so I want it to shoot great and have easy to aim factory sights.
I originally wanted to get a gun that shoots smaller .22 sized rifle rounds(.223, 22-250), but those guns are a bit pricey, but I still haven't decided yet so I just want some feedback what do you guys think?
I have a Hi-Point 9mm and it's a great gun. Few hundred rounds thru with out a tick and reasonably accurate--maybe a 50 yd gun for critters/small game. Peep sight is great and I use the same on my .450 marlin.
The mag is single column which is a little bit limiting with 10 rounds. With the buffalo bore +P+ you can get some .357 ballistics out of it and it handles them just fine. I'm NOT sure i'd use this on deer except maybe in a survival situation. With proper shot placement I think it'd work but I wouldn't intentionally do it unless a whole bunch of other choices were exhausted. The stock "stung" when firing just a bit so's I covered it all with electrical tape to soften it up and it works great now.
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If I got one I would probably want the .40 S&W, but I'm not sure what that costs, or even what parabellum costs. I know my Silver Bear 9x18 costs like just under $15 for a box of 50, at the hole in the wall gun shop(the best kind of gun shop BTW). I would think .40 would be about the same because it's easier to find, hell you can buy it at Wal-Mart, I just don't remember the price. My 30-30 is like $15 for a 20 round box, and .308 is like $18 for a 20 round box, so at that price really all I can shoot all the time is my .22. I would like to have a cheaper gun to shoot that still fires a deer legal round.
My real deer gun is the Marlin 336 it has a scope, and I only get it sighted in when my buddies are sighting theirs as well. So thats why I'd like to have a good shooting gun without a scope. There are lots of hills here in MO I'm sure not many people actually shoot at a deer when it's more than 100yrds away, most people get their deer when they walk right next to them. Thats probably why the 30-30(other than the woods areas) is so popular even though it doesn't fly like a .308 or something, they don't need it too.
I haven't decided to buy one yet just looking at my options.
2 winters ago i was working in an indoor range. We rented the hipoints to whoever wanted to shoot something other than the 22s. $6.00 was the rent fee, and i can tell you these guns where shot and shot and shot.
Alot of these customers were first time shooters and i seen some careless things being done to these hipoints. From loading bullets backwoods to dropping them on the concrete floor.
Besides never getting a proper cleaning after use, i will tend to think how well they will hold up if they were being taken care of.
I had seen the 40 hipoints that customers will come in to shoot with, as well as other 9s. And thier owners also had good things to say also.
I have yet to hear anything too bad about the Hi-Point carbines, other than they are "ugly" which is not constructive criticism. A friend of mine got the 9mm version for his wife and she loves it. I've only shot the 9mm version myself (don't own one thought) and I liked the feel of it ok but didn't try shooting farther than maybe 30 yards. I'd say for the price on these you can't hardly go wrong, and the .40 version seems to me like it would be a pretty versatile rifle.
Another neat little gun is the Marlin Camp 9. My cousin has one and it is a pretty little plinker. If you can find a used one I think they are worth the bucks.
That Marlin looks like a Mini 14(wish I could afford either one), it looks cool. It looks like it has the same sights as my Marlin 336(scoped since I bought it). I actually kind of like the looks of the Hi Point carbines, some people in other threads said they look like Planet of the Apes guns, and they do kinda, but not that ugly.
I have had a High Point carbine on my Wish List at Bud's for about five months now and as soon as a 9MM or a .40 becomes available I'm going to jump on it. I have never shot one myself but a lot of people I respect a lot here and at my range speak very, very highly of them.
Their pistols, I wouldn't even use one as a peper weight but their carbines have a reputation that can't be beat as far as the gun you get for the money you pay.
I have a 9mm carbine on hold at one of my local shops...$199 plus tax with reddot scope. As soon as I sell my hi-point 45 JHP I am going to go buy it. The pistol is on gunbroker now but don't know if it is going to sell...2 hours left and no bids. If it doesn't sell I might list it on here if anyone is interested.
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If the Deer are close then why don't you take the scope off your 336 ? And save your money ?
Beside (I don't know) is it legal to shoot Deers with 9mm or 40 S&W ?
I've had Deer that were hard to bring down with a 30-06 so I can't help wonder about your question here...A.H
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Last edited by ArkansasHunter; 06-16-2009 at 08:14 PM.
Well the scope is already on there and it works great, and 15$ for only 20 rounds ain't real cheap either(at least not to me). Besides once you start buying guns you don't stop. Sounds like you actually get more than you pay for when you buy a Hi Point carbine.
