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Start a-new. on Swine flu
I know there is an old thred on this subject. but.
I just seen a report that the cdc is telling washington to prepare for the worst. They are estimateing at least 6,000,000 cases this fall and winter in the U.S.A alone.
I need to look in my library. I bought a small paperback book on the subject about two yrs ago. It's out-dated now for sure.
Time to start prepareing.
The feds are positioning themselves as we speak, lots of movement of vehicles lately. Fixing to be a big drill for the flu. I've prepared since 96, mentally, physically and stocked supplies and have almost finished my fortifications.Topping off the water and have a friend with a bug out spot on the river. Country boys can survive. You need to get sufficiently stocked yesterday. Don't be no cow herded through the stalls. They will make the emergency.
Tamiflu will make it resistant and who knows what's in the new kool-aid to "save" you.
You want to be out of the loop and upstream and upwind.
Flu has a protein coat. There is the problem. It changes. The medications produced and distributed at this time may or may not
be matched to the protein coat this fall and winter.
On the other side the protein coat can change to the point humans are just not in danger.
So, it is a good idea to try and be ready but it is wrong just to say so many millions of doses of existing medication makes us ready.
I know someone who works at a hospital. She didn't give me a number but she said there are a lot of Swine flew cases there. I've heard nothing about it in the local media.
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Back in the 70's there was an outbreak of "Spanish" or Swine Flu. More people died from the vaccines than did from the actual virus. The vaccines contain mercury asa carrying agent . . . last time I checked it was poison.
The govt. may also try to push for "forced innocculations" Don't know about you all but that sounds to me just a little on the side of what happened in Communist bloc countries and dictatorships.
Also in the lab we had some indication that the so called swine flu was a designer virus. Engineered in a lab, way to fishy. It has traces of three other traits from other viruses but had to be spliced at a gentic level . . . it just doesn't appear like that in nature.
What ever you do be careful.
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Almost every liquid precription medicine has mercury in it. It is used as an anti-freeze agent. It is very low amounts and can be processed out of the body in a normal person. My wife's mother actually has heavy metal poisoning due to the mercury in medicine. Her body simply will not process it out of her.
The govt. may also try to push for "forced innocculations" Don't know about you all but that sounds to me just a little on the side of what happened in Communist bloc countries and dictatorships.
I know I will likely get flamed for this but...
we already do this to some extent - there are required vaccines for schools etc in many communities. Some may have clauses allowing you to opt out for various religious or other reasons. Another instance is tuberculosis - there are forced treatments. That is what public health policy is all about and it does work for the greater good.
But let's put it another way - let's suppose there was some virus, bacterial, or other communicable disease out there that we didn't have treatment or vaccine for. Let's also suppose it was deadly. Would you be in favor of forced quarantine for those affected to protect the rest of us (assume the quarantine would work)?
The point where you have to draw a line in the sand and decide what to do generally depends on how virulent the disease is and how successful (and safe) the treatment or vaccine is. If only half the population took the polio or small pox vaccine both would still be running rampant.
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If we are informed as to how bad it is in time, I am prepared to stay home with no visitor for probably 3 months or so. I have food, over the counter meds, anti-biotics etc, in case of cold, regular flu, or secondary infection. Hopefully that will keep me from having to go to the doc where all the sick people will be.
The difficult part will be waiting to see how bad it is, before the gov or somebody puts out the word for folks to stay home from work and school. If it gets that bad, which I hope it will not. Who knows, but I am prepared for whatever I can prepare for. Prepare for the worst; hope for the best.
I don't think we need to worry about forced vaccination at this point, becuase they don't have enough to fo around anyway. I heard on NPR that kids will be first, along with people with histories of asthma and other complicating factors. They are telling old people not to try to get the vaccine. Read into that what you will.
I don't think we need to worry about forced vaccination at this point, becuase they don't have enough to fo around anyway. I heard on NPR that kids will be first, along with people with histories of asthma and other complicating factors. They are telling old people not to try to get the vaccine. Read into that what you will.
Universal Healthcare is starting already - if you're over 55 don't bother getting the vaccine!
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they will inoculate the govt. officials first president, his staff, then they will do the house and the senators and their families... Next will be state govt officials then state govtmental bodies... Then it will go to the hospital staff and to the LEO's and other police agencies... Then if there is anything left for the common people i.e. us then we may get the vaccine, maybe unless they run out... but hey FEMA will always come to our aid same with the govtment... HAHHahhaahhahaaaa... ahhh... i kill me some times...
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I don't think that any "public officials" will get any such thing, regardless if you see them on the "news" getting the shots. The presidents medical records have been sealed so that no one can confirm or denie that he has ever had any innocculations or that he is even a natural born citizen of this counrty (a little off the beaten path to get to this)
Just as was stated above mecury is poison and some bodies can expel heavy metals. this is true. But residual effects from heavy metals can mean metal problems resulting from the mercury passing through the brain and some types of paralysis since it can pass into the spinal cord. This also poses a problem for me that we have been conditioned to feel that when some one tells us a little mercury won't hurt us we believe it. It's like flouride in our water supply (also poison) We are told it's good for us- BULL SH!% Sodium Flouride is POISON made from the process of smelting aluminum. The Flouride that is natural and good for you (found in Broccoli and asparagus) is Calcium Flouride Phosphate. Look at the side of your tooth paste. Sodium Flouride.
This is not coming from the public health dept. it comes from the W.H.O. the world health organization. And are run by the United Nations. You all can do as you wish but in a free society (as ours is supposed to be) how can any one justify (Mandatory Vaccinations) for something that is not even proven to have killed anyone. Remember the Bird flu and SARS???? between the 2 less than 100 people out of 6 Billion world wide got it and less than 40 died (confirmed cases)
Just be careful what you read and accept as truth is all I'm trying to get at. I have a hard time with anything printed or said by our media or our Government.The scariest words I've ever heard uttered "Hi, I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
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Originally Posted by larmus
they will inoculate the govt. officials first president, his staff, then they will do the house and the senators and their families... Next will be state govt officials then state govtmental bodies... Then it will go to the hospital staff and to the LEO's and other police agencies... Then if there is anything left for the common people i.e. us then we may get the vaccine, maybe unless they run out... but hey FEMA will always come to our aid same with the govtment... HAHHahhaahhahaaaa... ahhh... i kill me some times...
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This whole thing bothers me so much. Can't you all see what this is. It is just the media trying to make everyone scared for ratings, 35.000 americans die each year of the plain ol flu abt how many died of swine flu a few hundred i mean seriously it isnt a big deal. The funniest part is that swine flu is one of the least deadly forms of flu that there is I went to the doctor and asked him about it he said that he would rather see 20 patients with Swine flu than 5 with regular flu because the swine flu is very very easy to treat. and well the disease i would worry about if i were you all would be smallpox or a badass form of the old Spanish flu.
This whole thing bothers me so much. Can't you all see what this is. It is just the media trying to make everyone scared for ratings, 35.000 americans die each year of the plain ol flu abt how many died of swine flu a few hundred i mean seriously it isnt a big deal. The funniest part is that swine flu is one of the least deadly forms of flu that there is I went to the doctor and asked him about it he said that he would rather see 20 patients with Swine flu than 5 with regular flu because the swine flu is very very easy to treat. and well the disease i would worry about if i were you all would be smallpox or a badass form of the old Spanish flu.
Haha. Agreed. Screw the SWINE flu.
I do wonder though what if the outbreak had been during the winter...would that have changed anything? I never seen so many people sick in the middle of summer.
This whole thing bothers me so much. Can't you all see what this is. It is just the media trying to make everyone scared for ratings, 35.000 americans die each year of the plain ol flu abt how many died of swine flu a few hundred i mean seriously it isnt a big deal. The funniest part is that swine flu is one of the least deadly forms of flu that there is I went to the doctor and asked him about it he said that he would rather see 20 patients with Swine flu than 5 with regular flu because the swine flu is very very easy to treat. and well the disease i would worry about if i were you all would be smallpox or a badass form of the old Spanish flu.
Kinda my point, Bravo.
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My sister is a longtime pathology lab tech (microbiology) for a big local hospital. So, she will be at Ground Zero if the big outbreak occurs here. She is also a member of their hazard response team. So basically - she's toast.
But, that's the breaks of being a medical professional. She accepts it.
She told me recently that the state of Florida is no longer tracking the number of cases of Swine Flu - too many. They are only tracking deaths - mercifully few here. Essentially, ANYONE coming to the hospitals with flu symptoms is first considered automatically as having Swine Flu and treated accordingly, until tests prove otherwise.
Myself, I will NOT be inocculated if I have any say-so about it - I too am ready and able to do a total quarentine lockdown of my casa. What I have read of this 'vaccine' does NOT look promising. Some of what I read (taken with the proverbial 'grain of salt') sounds downright aweful! I await more info as things develop.
Swine flu has killed 92 people in australia since it started and all but 1 has had something pretty serious wrong with then already.
The news here is saying 1 in 20 young kids gets sick from tamiflu vacine and it only reduces it one day. They are now saying it is so mild only the people needing vacine are already sick people and indiginous people.
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Start a-new. on Swine flu 
