the smallest i can find at BPS is 110 can you hand load smaller? someone i was talking to at work said they saw a 55gr but i have never seen this in the stores around here so i assume it was handloaded? as you can tell i dont handload
Remington loads the 55gr accelerator but you would have to get a gun store to special order.I doubt that you would find them in stock.I think they are expensive.If you know someone that reloads they could help in price.I never cared for them but I had .22 centerfires that would do the same thing more accurately.Some get along great with them.They can be pushed from about 3300fps to 4000fps+. ,,,sam.
Long long time ago I tried some saboted 55 grain accelerators in both 30-30 and 30.06. The accuracy of these rounds left very much to be desired. I gave up on them after one box of twenty per rifle. You can get 100 grain bullets, try those instead.
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Long long time ago I tried some saboted 55 grain accelerators in both 30-30 and 30.06. The accuracy of these rounds left very much to be desired. I gave up on them after one box of twenty per rifle. You can get 100 grain bullets, try those instead.
Don't believe you can get lighter than 110gr bullets in .30cal but for best accuracy I've found 125gr is as low as you want to go. ,,,sam.
Unless they been discontinued, Hornady made a 100 gr. short jacket and
Speer made a 100 gr. plinker. I've loaded the sabots with .22 bullets and
the accuracy was bloody awful. lol.
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someone posted a link a while back to purchase the sabots to make your own accelerator rounds. other than that the lightest bullets i've seen are the speer plinker semi jacketed 100gr
However, the most popular bullet weights will be the 150 and 165 or 168 grain bullets.
You must consider the rate of twist of the rifling in your gun. Accuracy is primarily a factor of optimizing the rate of twist, the muzzle velocity of the bullet, and the weight of the bullet. The factors you can change are the muzzle velocity of the bullet and the weight of the bullet. When you get too far away in terms of muzzle velocity and/or bullet weight from what the rate of twist can stabilize accuracy suffers. This is why the 55 grain sabot loads that really did go screaming out the barrel would not stabilize in flight thus being inaccurate. If you wanted a custom barrel you could have one made that would stablilize the 55 grain screamer but it would
not stabilize the heavier grain bullets such as the 165 grain bullet.
Hopefully, this very basic answer will be of some use to you.
I got what I thought I had remembered "plinkers" 90 or 95 grain back in the 80"s. May well have been 100 gr. Had bought some reloads in the 110 and 125 gr. for vermen. Just recently got a partial box of 220 gr bullets, while most of my reloads were 165, 180 and 150. The sabot sleeves can be found at most gun shows and in the shotgun news. I even saw a lady selling AP/armour piercing bullets most likely pulled from old military rounds. The Remington Accelerators .22 cal sabot round are going for a pretty penny now a days, I think there's another problem with the plastic/nylon material loads up the riflings causing some accuracy problem as well as the rate of twist factor (I had not thought of that until nathangdad mentioned it, thanks!) My brother in-law got rid of a very nice bolt gun saying he had "shot the rifling out of it- accelerator are too hot of loads for the barrel" wish I would have had acted on buying it from him. A little elbow grease and a wire brush and some solvent to loose up the plastic. My favor 06 bullet weight is the 165 gr.
You can get bullets under 110gr in .308 as some have posted.The problem is they can't be pushed fast and with little weight they are a dud at varmint ranges.If you push them fast they turn into a grey mist about 10yds in front of the muzzle.As to sabots,the sabot being made of molded plastic is the problem when it comes to accuracy.They aren't drawn and machined leaving them with whatever variables in dementions they have in the mold.This leads to the coax in the bullet being off but also an uneven release when the bullet leaves the muzzle.As far as not being able to stabilise,if a bullet traveling at between 3500 and 4000fps from a 1in10" to 1in12" twist can't stabilise,how the hell does a .22lr at 1200fps stabilise from a 1in16"twist?One other thing that could and probably does make for inaccuracy would be if the soft sabot were misaligned when the bullet seats in the riflings it might never straighten up.The only answer is try them.If they don't work,(they never did for me) don't buy anymore. ,,,sam.
Very good point Sam, the concentric hold of the sabot vs the center of the barrel is one to screw up the point of impact if they don't match exact. I did buy one box of the Remington 55 grain .22 cal bullets way back---I just never tried them. I paid $7.97 for the box of 20 at Wally World way back in time---these cost a couple of $$ more then the 180 gr ones that I was buying---then along came my Lee Reloader cheaper yet. Thanks Sam!
110 is the lightest i have saw. and i wouldn't expect a lot of accuracy because of the 1:10 (i assume that is the normal twist rate) twist rate in a 30-06.
