[p23185]

Does anyone know the date (if applicable) that a separate restoration of gun rights application became availble? Didn't restoration of Civil rights used to include gun rights in the 1980s?

[alwaysaz]

Quote:       Originally Posted by p23185

Does anyone know the date (if applicable) that a separate restoration of gun rights application became availble? Didn't restoration of Civil rights used to include gun rights in the 1980s?

I don't really understand what you are asking.

[woody1981]

Quote:       Originally Posted by alwaysaz

I don't really understand what you are asking.

I'm not sure either, but I think p is asking if the Civil Rights Bill of 1980 included the right to own firearms, or if gun rights were made legal in another bill. ***My own thought--was there anything after 2A?

[larmus]

sounds like "restoration" of gun rights... possible from prison terms or jail terms where your rights are taken and then once restatution is done you recieve your rights back in a limited fasion... my .02cents anyway...

[GlockMeister]

If that's the case, getting certain rights back, and depending on the reason they were taken from you to begin with, but with certain ones, such as gun rights, you'd probably have to go before a judge and get whatever expunged from your record before to could get your gun rights back.

But again, it WILL depend on the reason you lost them in the first place as well as the judge you get and how much money you have to get the best lawyer.

Now a days it's quite hard to get things expunged from your record in order to get ones gun rights back.

[p23185]

I already have the judgement "set-aside" (expunglement not avail in AZ) and all civil rights restored signed by the convicting judge. More specifically, in 1994, ARS 13-904 (Suspension of civiol rights and occuptaional disabilities)" had a sub-section "5" added, "The right to possess a gun or firearm". Number 5 (gun possession) in the list of suspended civil rights was not in the law when I was convicted. So when the Judge restored my civil rights, did it include gun rights back in the 1980s before the law changed in 1994? That is what I am attempting to discover - did restoration of "any and all civil rights" (signed by the Judge) include the right to possess a gun or firearm?

Also the ARS 13-912 "Restoration of civil rights; automatic for first offenders: persons excluded" law was revised in 1988 when the state added subsection "B" - This section does not apply to a person's right to possess weapons as defined in 13-3101 unless he applies to a court pursuant to the procedures of 13-906 (Restoration of civil rights; persons completing probation). So - prior to 1988 (my case), subsection B regarding possession of weapons was not in this section of the law either.

I am trying to figure out if "the restoration of any and all civil rights" that were restored in early 1980s INCLUDED the right to possess a weapon given the laws at the time.

[larmus]

you would most likely need to ask a judge or a lawyer for those questions... it depends on the nature of the crime whether or not a deadly weapon i.e. a gun was used in the crime and to what extent the crime was burglary, robbery, banks, gas station, so on and so forth up to murder... it all depends on the crime... i know it shouldnt but that is ussually how the world looks at things... but if you were in and out before the new revisions then i would think(MY OPINION) that the new revisions would not apply to you...