Hi Experts
I am from China.This gun was left by my grandfather.He was also know few of gun. Now I am owning this gun,I want to know further about it.Counld you tell me anything that you know or give me some key information.
Get Guns&Ammo on the web and they would be able to help.When you get an answer,would you plaese share with us as I am mystified and curious.Just hit that post reply deal once,it;ll do the rest.Welcome and thank you for a very intresting post. ,,,sam.
After looking at the picture I must warn you not to shoot it. It is rusted inside and out from what I can tell.
Even if you had it restored you should'nt shoot it. Because it has family history I would buy or build a nice wall display and place it on a wall in your house.
It is a cool looking Old shotgun...To be honest with you it looks like it never was properly maintaned as in keeeping it oiled down...A.H
AH:If that firearm came out of China in the past 60yrs it wasn't legal to own and it is hard telling where it was hid at.I just hope this new member can give us more info on a very unique firearm,evidently made by the very people that invented gunpowder and hand cannon.This could be very intresting.The firing mech.looks like a couple knockers/hammers that hit fireing pins that are in bolts that have to be completely extracted to insert a cartridge.Or possibly it is a ML.I would love to see it. ,,,sam.
Interesting firearm.Those three overlapping circles at the breech are very similiar to one of the Japanese arsenal markings.The 20:61 may be a date,anyone familiar with Chinese or Japanese dating conversion to an ordinary calender year date.
A most interesting gun, it seems to be a black powder double shotgun (black powder shells maybe) I might think that it is a Chinese copy of an old Darne or something similar. the Chinese use to make copies of many guns.
Kinda reminds me of that video of the gunsmiths in Pakistan that make guns out of scrap metal with hammers and files. Or the photos of this Viet Cong made 1911.
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Welcome to Gun and Game! I believe that you may be our first Chinese member, if so, congratulations! You have a very unusual firearm and , unfortunately, I can't help with the identification. I'm guessing that the 1.6 mm barrel is similar to our .410 gauge but I'm not sure. I'll see what I can find, but Chinese sporting arms are very rare over here.
Very glad to welcome you to G&G i hope you stay with us your shotgun is very interesting, and maybe someone will be able to find more information about it.
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Hi guys,Thank you to be friendly.I'm glad to be here with you.
I have this shotgun for severl years.It's left by my grandfather.He told me that this shotgun was from some Foreigners,not home-made.But which country he didn't know either.So I owned this shougun right now.I want to figure it out.I seach the "gun forum" on google and send message on the forum or to some email address.I know there are many gun lovers in UK and gun collecting is very hot in here.So I am be here want some experts could tell me the truth.Till now as my know there are severl suggestion,such as"a punt gun, a home-made, man-made gun, a sporting field gun used by lords and officers, a NIPPLES shotgun ". The more suggestion the less I can use.If you want to leave some message Privately,my email is pksu8@hotmail.com.
My English is not very well.So if there are some words mistaken,pls need some Patient.Thank you.
Welcome to Gun & Game. We are glad to have you join us. Thank you for the shotgun pictures. Sorry I can't help you with any information on it. Hopefully, someone here will be able to help. Enjoy the site.
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Welcome to the forum. Thank you for the pictures. I am very curious as to what that is and who made it. I find unusual guns really interesting. I hope someone knows.
Looks like an old Indian/Kyber/Nepal copy of a 1800's, possibly post 1870's, needle fire/rotating breech fowling piece, possibly in 20 gauge, hence the 20:61 marking & the .635 bore. Probably made for (or bought on his travels) some British Officer in one of the Frontier gun makers. Not sure why it would be marked xinhua, unless it is some sort of Chinese/ maybe Hong-kong proof mark. I can find no trace of the markings which points it towards a Frontier copy. How long is the barrel? Looks to be a good 37-40 inches (94-102cm), which would have been 19th century standard for a fowling piece.
I reckon it might have some museum value but no monetary value unless some collector was looking for one.
Do your local authorities recognise it as an antique, I ask because I know how paranoid they can be about public ownership of any sort of gun.
Hang it on the wall or give it to a local museum who might be able to find out more about it.
Good luck with tracking it's lineage.
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xinhua is a city in northeastern china..... i can't read the rest of the writing on the gun, as i can't get the photos to enlarge..... very interesting breech mechanism.......
