OK, finally. Or eureka! Whatever. Anyway, I've been trying for a couple of weeks to get a scout scope mount for my 91/59 that was stable and having some issues. I removed the rear sight mount and have been trying to get a .22cal/air rifle mount to work. Each time I went to the range the mount would slide forward with each shot and push against the handguard. I tired notching my mount like Troy showed in his report, but the mount wasn't deep enough to grab enough of the pin to stay put.
I ordered a Beeman air rifle mount from Midway which has a pin in one mount and this did the trick. I removed the pin and tapped the hole for a #8 set screw. The hole was slightly oversized so a #10 would have been better, but I only have a #8 tap. I also notched the mount and since this mount has deeper "jaws" it gets a better grip on the pin through the Mosin mount. I drilled a depression in the rifle mount to give the set screw something to grab onto and off to the range.
Finally, the scope stays in place. I zeroed the rifle for Czech LB and then tried some 7N1. Good patterns on both, but to my suprise the 7N1 was about 4" lower. Maybe it's a difference in powder and the short barrel. I then tried some Barnaul 203 gr loads and couldn't even get on the paper. Guess I'll need to do some experimenting to find the right load for short rifles.
While I was shooting a couple of guys came into the shed and sat at the next table. The range has a small shed with a frame and is covered in Tyvek. There are wooden windows that you can open and shoot out of from a table. When I shoot my 91/30 the barrel extends out of the window, but with the 91/59 the muzzle is inside the window. The guys next to me commented every time I touched off a round at the concussion. One guy said he could feel his pants leg blowing every time I fired.
Dunno what a Darrells mount is, but my main objective was to get the scope as low as possible. I was using a large sight in target which is a bit large for my scanner. My camera pics are too big for this server and I haven't figured out how to shrink the file size. I'll bring a smaller target home next trip and scan it.
Got any suggestions for a carbine load? Something fast burning I'm thinking.
Definitely need some pics. You can upload them on to photobucket and tell the pictures what size to be, then you can copy and paste the IMG code and your pics will show up. Or else, you open them in paint, and shrink them by like 25% for example, and resave somewhere easy to find and re-upload using the forum's feature. I'm interested to see your set up.
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I took ideas from IC and Troy and fiddled here and there until I got a solid mount. I'll try to get some pics of the rifle tomorrow and some targets my next time at the range.
Here's a pick of my Darrells Mount on my 91/59. I love it and it always holds zero. I'm just using a cheap Ncstar scope but has over 300 rds with no problems so far. I also have a Darrells mount on my M39 that works great also.
I like the looks of his mount and probably would have ordered one had they been available when I wanted one. What I like best about their appearance is that it puts the scope just ahead of the loader/ejector port. Mines about an inch and a half further forward. On the plus side my scope is lower, so I guess you pays your money and takes your chances.
Getting the rear sight mount off was a major PITA, so having a drop in mount would also save you that. If I can ever figure out how to shrink files I'll post some pics.
darrel's scout scope mounts are like the cadillacs of LER scope mounts....the ebay ones are the geo metros and the style like i use is the jeep(always fiddling with it), the style similar to mine but with the mount(instead of just rings) is like the buick, pretty much a cadillac without the price tag....
Hey gan how woulda rate the darrels and where can you get one.
Well, I have two scope mounts on Mosins. The Darrell's is the must sturdy one and hasn't shifted a microinch since I mounted it. The other one has a cheapo mount that seems to be holding after I Lok-tited all the screws. I did not have to Lok-tite the Darrell's. R5CYA left a good web address to find one.
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my darrells was moving around. i retightened the screws and am going to try it out today. loctite is not recommended by darrell unless you know how to defeat it later. i'm trying it without again.
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Loctite works great if you use the right one. I only use the blue medium strength #242. I would stay away from the red unless you don't want to remove it. The blue works great for me and don't have a problem removing something if I have to.
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