09-25-2009, 10:10 PM
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More disturbing news on the questionable H1N1 vaccine...
...especially for those living in WA: State lifts limit on mercury preservative in swine-flu shots "In preparation for swine-flu vaccinations next month, Washington's Health Department on Thursday temporarily suspended a rule that limits the amount of a mercury preservative in vaccines given to pregnant women and children under the age of 3."
Health | State lifts limit on mercury preservative in swine-flu shots | Seattle Times Newspaper
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09-25-2009, 10:35 PM
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#62 | | Resident Curmudgeon
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Originally Posted by TexasT  | Vaccines are a suggestion. They aren't forced on anyone. Perhaps except armed forces members. They just line up and bend over. | Unless you are a health care worker that has patient contact in the State of New York. There is a decree pending (I refuse to call it a law) that would require all health care workers who have patient contact to get that H1N1 swine flu vaccine.
There is going to be a protest on the 29th against this mandatory vaccination proposal at the State Capitol, and I will be there with a picket sign protesting mandatory vaccines that prominently features photos of my son with his extremely bad reaction to the measles vaccine that turned him autistic. (Don't start, T.)
One thing I will point out if I get the chance is that the swine flu vaccine has ethyl mercury, aka thimerisol, in it. There is no safe level of mercury in the human body. It is a teratogenic substance. And who are the primary targets of this vaccine after health care workers? Pregnant women and small children.
See why I am going to this protest?
If someone wants to get this vaccine, I won't gainsay their right to have it. I just don't want it being forced on people. That's not right. It's against the kind of freedoms we stand for. It's arguably a Fourth Amendment violation.
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09-26-2009, 03:12 AM
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#63 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by roadie | Is this much different that the fact that new born babies must be vaccinated against DTaP (diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis, aka whooping cough), Hib (haemophilus influenzae type b), IPV (polio), PCV (pneumococcal conjugate vaccine), Hep B (hepatitis B — unless she got it at her four-week checkup instead), and RV (rotavirus). I don't know if it's the law for the new born shots and I haven't seen much on this whole thing that's seems to be going on in Mass, but it sounds like it would only be used in the case of an emergency, but if a real outbreak did happen, shouldn't the rest of the non infected public be protected at any cost? Like, I said, I am not versed on what's going on, just my thoughts. | The infant mortality rate, in the US, due to these mandatory innoculations (DPT), exceeds 20,000 per year, according to the World Health organization. Is that the "any price" you had in mind?
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09-26-2009, 03:20 AM
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#64 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by LiveToShoot More disturbing news on the questionable H1N1 vaccine...
...especially for those living in WA: State lifts limit on mercury preservative in swine-flu shots "In preparation for swine-flu vaccinations next month, Washington's Health Department on Thursday temporarily suspended a rule that limits the amount of a mercury preservative in vaccines given to pregnant women and children under the age of 3."
Health | State lifts limit on mercury preservative in swine-flu shots | Seattle Times Newspaper | I advise everyone on this Forum to read the book MURDER BY INJECTION, written by Eustace Mullins, copyright 1988.
It seems the level of mercury in vaccines is dangerous to women and children in Washington State ONLY when there is not a whole supply of swine flu vaccine available to sell for profits.
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09-26-2009, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Ten Man | I advise everyone on this Forum to read the book MURDER BY INJECTION, written by Eustace Mullins, copyright 1988.
It seems the level of mercury in vaccines is dangerous to women and children in Washington State ONLY when there is not a whole supply of swine flu vaccine available to sell for profits. | For your viewing pleasure... Eustace Mullins: Murder By Injection Eustace Mullins presents: The World Order | |
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09-26-2009, 08:44 AM
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| Where Did the H1N1 Late-2009 Flu Season Virus Come From? "If your understanding is the current H1N1 late-2009 season flu pandemic began in Mexico as it spread from herds of pigs to humans there you are probably among the millions who have been misled as to the origins of this flu outbreak." Where Did the H1N1 Late-2009 Flu Season Virus Come From? by Bill Sardi | |
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09-26-2009, 08:50 AM
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09-26-2009, 09:07 AM
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09-26-2009, 09:07 AM
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My sister reports that she was required, as a healthcare worker (pathology lab tech in hospital) to get the Mexican Flu vaccine, with refusal resulting in loss of employment. She has nearly thirty years in, and would lose her retirement bennies if fired for this nonsense.
So much for "CHOICE"..........
They will need three people to give me the jab.....
one to hold me down in shackles, one to put the gun to my head, and one to administer the vaccine. May God help them when they release me...... 
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09-26-2009, 09:09 AM
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09-26-2009, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by LiveToShoot Where Did the H1N1 Late-2009 Flu Season Virus Come From? "If your understanding is the current H1N1 late-2009 season flu pandemic began in Mexico as it spread from herds of pigs to humans there you are probably among the millions who have been misled as to the origins of this flu outbreak." Where Did the H1N1 Late-2009 Flu Season Virus Come From? by Bill Sardi | This helped me have a better understanding about Swine Flu.
Everyone should read this one. I will also start taken vitimin E and Selenium...A.H
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09-26-2009, 09:34 PM
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#72 | | Firearm Zealot
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i blame the rotarians
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09-26-2009, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cheapblaster | If you slog through the text of the bill you will find that its intent is to deal with dire public health emergencies involving infectious diseases. This emergency must be declared by the government and can last for up to 90 days. It can also be extended if needed.
It states that a person believed to have been exposed to and possibly carrying that disease should be tested, vaccinated or treated. If a person refuses this they can be quarantined for the incubation period of the disease. IF A PERSON REFUSES! During a serious outbreak of a disease.
NOT a scenario where jack-booted storm troopers kick in your door and inject you with some vaccine.
Quarantine for infectious disease has in one form or another been a part of public health policy for a long time.
Sorry, the sky ain't falling here. | cheapblaster,
please don't dig deeply into this, i prefer to maintain my individual rights and if the flu becomes pandemic i will die like a true free american, hopefully breathing on as many others before i meet my demise.
government sanctioned quarantine was wrong during the 1918 flu out break, and all the many government sanctioned protective measures since, have been wrong.
the cdc should be closed, all it can do is warn of of impending doom, for which the government has no right to protect us anyway.
this site has plenty of constitutional scholars, judging by the writing, most likely graduates of some of our finest educational institutions (excluding, berkeley/stanford of course).
thank you for reading, and i will give you another chance before using my ignore button.
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09-27-2009, 07:59 AM
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#74 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by LiveToShoot Posted for your review and consideration......from NaturalNews.com. "A new law passed by the state Senate in Massachusetts calls for mandatory vaccinations of all citizens and a $1,000 / day fine for those who refuse to cooperate. It also legalizes health care "interrogations" of Mass. citizens, forced entry into homes without a warrant, the on-site destruction of buildings or objects suspected of harboring the virus, the government kidnapping of family pets, "involuntary transportation" of people into quarantine camps and much more. Read my analysis of this disturbing police state assault on freedom that's about to be signed into law in Massachusetts (and could be followed by other states across the country):" Wake Up, America: Forced vaccinations, quarantine camps, health care interrogations and mandatory "decontaminations" by Mike Adams the Health Ranger | NaturalNews
is a place where they embrace the naturalistic fallacy: the erroneous idea that everything natural is good and everything unnatural is bad.
so the source of this information is iffy at best
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09-27-2009, 10:04 AM
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#76 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by LiveToShoot i am saying that if they are full of crap in one regard.
everything else they say is suspect.
it's common sense
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09-27-2009, 10:18 AM
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Over the past year I've read a good portion of what they write/post...
...and have found much value in/from what they offer.
That being written...
...I tend to side with the healthier choice/side of living.
I'd like to stay healthy so that my quality of life lasts as long as possible...
...so I can enjoy the journey way down the path.
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09-27-2009, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Dog My sister reports that she was required, as a healthcare worker (pathology lab tech in hospital) to get the Mexican Flu vaccine, with refusal resulting in loss of employment. She has nearly thirty years in, and would lose her retirement bennies if fired for this nonsense.
So much for "CHOICE"..........
They will need three people to give me the jab.....
one to hold me down in shackles, one to put the gun to my head, and one to administer the vaccine. May God help them when they release me...... | No Offense but this is purely a load!
The ERISA Act would prevent it. If not every vested employee participating in a pension plan would forfeit their pension as a result of unilateral rules imposed on by employers on employees who were about to retire. Think much money would be saved? If she's looking to retire on the Lab there's plenty of firms who would drool to take that case if in fact it's as stated here.
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09-27-2009, 02:41 PM
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#79 | | Firearm Aficionado 
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I think this matches up with the orginal start of the thread... Forcing people to take it... http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=15e_1253206912
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Originally Posted by Ten Man | The infant mortality rate, in the US, due to these mandatory innoculations (DPT), exceeds 20,000 per year, according to the World Health organization. Is that the "any price" you had in mind? | ten
even tho you are really scary looking in the avatar.
i am not a doctor but play one on gun sites sometimes.
your figure of 20,000 deaths, per year is meaningless without additional data. what is the projected death rate, cost, and further health information for those who contact the flu, what is the estimated effectiveness of the vaccine. how completely was it tested (or not)? why does the cdc recommend it for certain groups?
no one like bad news but if 20,000 is an accurate figure and used as the mean, we, as a society may have many + deviations from the mean, thus 20,000 would be a "good" number of deaths.
what kind of doctor are you? chiropractor,denist,or d.o.?
i am pretending to be an immunologist.
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