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| Swine Flu Pandemic, or False Flag?
Found this article on the H1N1 virus (swine flu) thing, personally and as an EMT I think this is blown way out of proportion. It almost seems like they are testing the public to see what we will do if this sort of outbreak happens, and seeing how compliant we are. I know for a fact, the regular flu strain kills more people nationwide than this one did world wide. Just some food for thought.......I had to comment on areas in the article, because I think this is bull, just like the terror alert status. When is the deadly virus alert status coming? By MIKE STOBBE, AP Medical Writer Mike Stobbe, Ap Medical Writer – Tue Sep 1, 11:22 am ET ATLANTA – Since it first emerged in April, the global swine flu epidemic has sickened more than 1 million Americans and killed about 500. It's also spread around the world, infecting tens of thousands and killing nearly 2,000. (According to the CDC 36,000 deaths are due to the regular flu each year since 1990) This summer, the virus has been surprisingly tenacious in the U.S., refusing to fade away as flu viruses usually do. And health officials predict a surge of cases this fall, perhaps very soon as schools reopen. (How can one predict when a disease will strike?) A White House report from an expert panel suggests that from 30 percent to half the population could catch swine flu during the course of this pandemic and that from 30,000 to 90,000 could die. (Look at those estimates!!!! From 500 to 90,000 in a few months!!!???, notice the CDC was not part of that expert panel) So how worried should you be and how do you prepare? The Associated Press has tried to boil down the mass of information into 10 things you should know to be flu-savvy. 1. No cause for panic. (They are saying 30 to 50% of us could die, but don't panic?!) So far, swine flu isn't much more threatening than regular seasonal flu. During the few months of this new flu's existence, hospitalizations and deaths from it seem to be lower than the average seen for seasonal flu, and the virus hasn't dramatically mutated. That's what health officials have observed in the Southern Hemisphere where flu season is now winding down. (A slight contradiction would'nt you say?) Still, more people are susceptible to swine flu and U.S. health officials are worried because it hung in so firmly here during the summer — a time of year the flu usually goes away. 2. Virus tougher on some. Swine flu is more of a threat to certain groups — children under 2, pregnant women, people with health problems like asthma, diabetes and heart disease. Teens and young adults are also more vulnerable to swine flu.(Playing on our instincts to protect our children) Ordinary, seasonal flu hits older people the hardest, but not swine flu. Scientists think older people may have some immunity from exposure years earlier to viruses similar to swine flu. 3. Wash your hands often and long. Like seasonal flu, swine flu spreads through the coughs and sneezes of people who are sick. Emphasize to children that they should wash with soap and water long enough to finish singing the alphabet song, "Now I know my ABC's..." Also use alcohol-based hand sanitizers.(Still the most effective way to protect ones self) 4. Get the kids vaccinated. These groups should be first in line for swine flu shots, especially if vaccine supplies are limited — people 6 months to 24 years old, pregnant women, health care workers.(Not forced vaccinations, in a sence) Also a priority: Parents and caregivers of infants, people with those high-risk medical conditions previously noted. 5. Get your shots early. Millions of swine flu shots should be available by October. If you are in one of the priority groups, try to get your shot as early as possible. Check with your doctor or local or state health department about where to do this. Many children should be able to get vaccinated at school. Permission forms will be sent home in advance. (Scaring you by saying there is not enough to go around) 6. Immunity takes awhile. Even those first in line for shots won't have immunity until around Thanksgiving. That's because it's likely to take two shots, given three weeks apart, to provide protection. And it takes a week or two after the last shot for the vaccine to take full effect. The regular seasonal flu shot should be widely available in September. People over 50 are urged to be among the first to get that shot. 7. Vaccines are being tested. Health officials presume the swine flu vaccine is safe and effective, but they're testing it to make sure. The federal government has begun studies in eight cities across the country to assess its effectiveness and figure out the best dose. Vaccine makers are doing their own tests as well. (They are making it and providing it when they don't know if its safe yet, normal trials take years, not months.) 8. Help! Surrounded by swine flu. If an outbreak of swine flu hits your area before you're vaccinated, be extra cautious. Stay away from public gathering places like malls, sports events and churches. Try to keep your distance from people in general. Keep washing those hands and keep your hands away from your eyes, nose and mouth. (Practicing for some sort of martial law exercise, with a curfew perhaps?) 9. What if you get sick? If you have other health problems or are pregnant and develop flu-like symptoms, call your doctor right away. You may be prescribed Tamiflu or Relenza. These drugs can reduce the severity of swine flu if taken right after symptoms start. If you develop breathing problems (rapid breathing for kids), pain in your chest, constant vomiting or a fever that keeps rising, go to an emergency room. Most people, though, should just stay home and rest. (Did'nt they say 30-50% could die, but stay home?) Cough into your elbow or shoulder. Stay home for at least 24 hours after your fever breaks. Fluids and pain relievers like Tylenol can help with achiness and fever. Always check with a doctor before giving children any medicines. Adult cold and flu remedies are not for them. 10. No swine flu from barbecue. You can't catch swine flu from pork — or poultry either (even though it recently turned up in turkeys in Chile). (What does that mean?) Swine flu is not spread by handling meat, whether it's raw or cooked. Source: U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene. |
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The worrisome thing about this swine flu isn't the overall mortality rate. It's the fact that, like the flu of 1918, it's killing young healthy people in the prime of life, instead of just infants, the elderly and those with compromised immune systems. That doesn't mean it will be as bad, but it raises the possibility. And if they waited through years of testing, no flu shots would ever be given. Flu's mutate from year to year, and the people making the vaccines just do the best they can to keep up. What they mean by the flu turning up in turkeys is exactly that: they found turkeys infected with it in Chile. In other words, they had the flu. but you can't get it by handling or [eating] their meat. Last edited by troy2000; 09-01-2009 at 09:14 PM. |
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Eighty bajillion batrillion dogmagillion ways to die... There's something reassuring that only one will get each of us...all the rest failed! Glass. Half full.
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It's interesting that the authorities are saying "you may be prescribed Tamiflu." Reports coming out of England indicate that taking Tamiflu may exacerbate the flu by irritating the intestines, not minimize the symptoms. But of course since the report didn't originate here, its information can't be trusted, can it?
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Flu comes with a protein coat. This is just so critical I cannot overemphasize it. Without getting too technical, suffice it to say the protein coat has various receptors that can allow it (if the configuration is right) to really cause havoc with the human body. The protein coat changes in configuration over time. It may change to the point of being totally harmless to humans. It may change to become totally dangerous to humans. The purpose of a flu shot is to get the human body ready to reject the protein coat configuration. This is what is "predicted" in making flu vaccine. We may have a million gallons (so to speak) of vaccine that will be effective in blocking the protein coat configuration, the protein coat may mutate itself out of danger to humans, or the protein coat may mutate to become very dangerous in a configuration that the flu shot may not be geared to reject. I know this is a sort of simple explanation but it does get to the heart of the problem. All that can really be done is to make the best guess as to the protein coat configuration the make a great deal of vaccine based on that projection. |
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Bird Flu Swin Flu Mad Cow West Nile E Coil I Sam O Nell Uh Co Lester All Global Whining We’ll probably all be dead by last week. I spelled that last one wrong on porpoise.. |
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Blog Entries: 161 | The influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 killed more people than the Great War, known today as World War I (WWI), at somewhere between 20 and 40 million people. It has been cited as the most devastating epidemic in recorded world history. More people died of influenza in a single year than in four-years of the Black Death Bubonic Plague from 1347 to 1351. Known as "Spanish Flu" or "La Grippe" the influenza of 1918-1919 was a global disaster. http://virus.stanford.edu/uda/
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You forgot Obama.
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| Cardinal Richlieu ![]() | CDC Novel H1N1 Flu | Facts and Figures Swine Flu is BS! Its killed less than 500 people. CDC numbers linked above.
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2000 have died world wide.
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You forgot my fave flesh eating bug. Ebola, man, that one scares me.
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