Old 09-13-2009, 11:11 AM   #1
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I will be the last!

Yesterday during another speech the Big O said,"I am not the first president to try and get health reform,but I will be the last!"
Sounds rather confident?
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Old 09-13-2009, 11:15 AM   #2
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I heard that. I don't listen to him much anymore, but I heard that clip. He also said something about he couldn't "permit" Congress not do do anything.

PERMIT?

PERMIT?

Since when does one branch of government PERMIT another to do or not do anything??!
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Old 09-13-2009, 11:35 AM   #3
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Let us get real when it comes to Obama

He is a classic Federalist as in the early days of America. It is eliteism
guiding the masses. This is what Thomas Jefferson ran against and defeated in the early 1800's.
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Old 09-13-2009, 01:42 PM   #4
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nathangdad, I can't agree with you that the bum is a classic Federalist. Even the Federalists acknowledged that the people had rights. Obama does not believe that. He sees us as a bunch of sheep whose function is to be sheared of their money, which is then used to service the pigs in Washington and the invasive foreign species that threaten to displace the native animals.

He is not a shepherd minding his flock, and he is not the Captain on the bridge of the Ship of State. He's just a greedy pig who oinks louder and better than most.
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A bunch of true Americans on the mall in Washington DC yesterday will prove to him that he cannot "permit" anything to happen or not happen. He has consistently ignored the fact that this is a nation of laws, not of men. There can be no King Obama. He is president only by will of a number of misguided people.
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Old 09-13-2009, 07:35 PM   #6
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Hi Cyrano - good point well taken

You point of view is excellent.

Perhaps I should have used megalomaniac rather than
Federalist.

I see your point - even the Adams family would have rejected his "permitting" statement.
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Old 09-13-2009, 07:38 PM   #7
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Maybe he meant that if he fails, no one else will risk his political career trying.
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Old 09-13-2009, 08:28 PM   #8
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I agree with everybody but Teach.I do not believe it is even conceivable to Obuma that he can fail.And I really believe he means to be "THE LAST".In other words,our first dictator. ,,,sam.
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Quote:       Originally Posted by nathangdad View Post
You point of view is excellent.

Perhaps I should have used megalomaniac rather than
Federalist.

I see your point - even the Adams family would have rejected his "permitting" statement.
John Adams would have rammed that comment about "Permitting Congress to do nothing about health care" right down Obama's throat and then broken his walking stick over Obama's head.

Obama likes to compare himself to both FDR and JFK. I don't see the parallels. The politician Obama most reminds me of is Huey Long - and if you know your American history you'll know why I find it so frightening that someone like that is now the President of the United States.
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Old 09-13-2009, 09:09 PM   #10
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I agree with everybody but Teach.I do not believe it is even conceivable to Obuma that he can fail.And I really believe he means to be "THE LAST".In other words,our first dictator. ,,,sam.

I was just going to say that I think he intends to be the last President. I am not sure if he intends to become dictator or simply destroy America..........
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Old 09-13-2009, 09:39 PM   #11
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bobo probably believes his masters in the UN World Government will make him Prime Minister For Life of the Socialist States of Norte America.

A few MILLION armed American Citizens will give him a much-needed attitude adjustment.
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Old 09-14-2009, 08:53 AM   #12
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Can we get some universally agreed upon (at least on this site) smiley to indicate sarcasm?? It's always hard to get it come across right in print. How about a specific color? How about purple on semi-political stuff, since it's a blend of red and blue? "Maybe ....... political career trying."

And yeah, Sam, I agree. The guy is sufficiently self confident, despite all the tea parties and such, that it is simply not in his stream of consciousness that his ideas will not be wildly successful, no matter how the dumb illiterate masses may feel about them. We don't know what's best for us, but he does.
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:01 AM   #13
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I heard that. I don't listen to him much anymore, but I heard that clip. He also said something about he couldn't "permit" Congress not do do anything.

PERMIT?

PERMIT?

Since when does one branch of government PERMIT another to do or not do anything??!
THE LICENSE BUREUA ------they give out permits !!! LOL!!!!
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:04 AM   #14
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Yea, heard that, and I also heard, " I intend to be President for a long time"? Scary thought!?!?

I wonder for just how long he's thinking? He does know there's a 2 term max. right? Or does he have a plan? lol
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Perhaps the Empty Suit from Illinois thinks he can get the 22nd Amendment overturned. I wouldn't hold my breath in his position. The Republicans pushed it through following the death in office of FDR, saying (with justice) that the stresses of the job were what killed him, that 8 years was about as much as a normal man could stand of such daily, ongoing stresses.

After they got the immensely popular and quietly effective (he was a lousy field general but a better than average president) Dwight Eisenhower as President, the Republican Party looked into voiding the 22nd and found there was no support for it among the People, popular president or not. The People agreed with the premise that George Washington had had the right of it, that eight years of that man-killing stress was enough for anyone.

The Democratic Party looked at it in the 1990s when Slick Willy was President (this was before the Monica Mess and subsequent impeachment of Clinton). They discovered that the opinion of the People had not changed; that there was no way, even assuming they could push a proposed Constitutional Amendment through Congress to get it out for referendums in all 50 states, that they would be able to get the 38 necessary votes to pass it into law.

Obama can wish it all he wants, but he is forgetting two things. First, each state's vote counts the same in the matter of Constitutional Amendments. And second, while he would need 38 votes to pass such an amendment, the opposition would need only 13 votes to kill it. Look at the 2008 vote map and tell me opponents of such a proposal couldn't muster at least the 13 votes to kill such a proposed amendment! Americans tend to be very conservtive about changes to our political structure. I would be very surprised, even were such a proposed amendment to make it out of Congress, if Obama could get as many as 20 votes in favor of it in the seven years proposed Constitutional amendments have to pass or fail.
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