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Old 09-15-2009, 06:41 PM   #1
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cheap cleaner for pyrodex?

i am on a tight budget and have heard of some cleaners that work to clean a muzzleloader, i was wondering if they work and what others i might use. i have heard that windex will clean a muzzleloader good, as well as boiling lemon peels in water and using the water to clean it. what else can i use?, i have a optima and can clean fairly easy. i have checked in stores and those factory cleaners are more than i can afford right now. my wife won't let me use the bathtub any more she don't like that black mess in the tub. so i need something besides just hot water. i will need something i can use on my back porch to take pyrodex out of the barrel good, thanks for your help.

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Old 09-15-2009, 06:49 PM   #2
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I use a plastic 5 gallon bucket with very hot water & dish soap. I just dump it in the yard when done (twice with the rinse) the heated water dries the barell well, then I oil it. It's a TC Hawken that is about 30-35 yrs old.
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:47 PM   #3
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I use triple 7 in my blackpowder and do pretty much the same a jerry. I run scalding hot water through it, swab it a few times, then put some cheap gel bore cleaner down it to mainly remove any moisture. The bore gel generally doesn't have anything left to clean out.
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:57 AM   #4
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i use a plastic 5 gallon bucket with very hot water & dish soap. I just dump it in the yard when done
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Old 09-16-2009, 02:16 AM   #5
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When I used Pyrodex P in my black powder revolver, I originally tried the dish soap and hot water method. However, I found that even after scrubbing the cylinder in the solution, when I dried it with a blow dryer, there was sulfur residue left. So I've decided only to use a muzzleloading solvent, that way I also don't have to worry so much about the nipple threads rusting out. I think I use the formula No. 9 or whatever it's called.
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Old 09-16-2009, 02:22 AM   #6
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I use Hot water and dish soap in the bathtub when I scrub My Muzzleloaders...Works just great , then I pour boiling water down the barrel so it dries fast , then I oil it !

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Old 09-16-2009, 02:42 PM   #7
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^ It's when he gets in the tub with them that starts the trouble, LOL !! Soap and water works quite well.
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Old 09-16-2009, 08:53 PM   #8
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When I used Pyrodex P in my black powder revolver, I originally tried the dish soap and hot water method. However, I found that even after scrubbing the cylinder in the solution, when I dried it with a blow dryer, there was sulfur residue left. So I've decided only to use a muzzleloading solvent, that way I also don't have to worry so much about the nipple threads rusting out. I think I use the formula No. 9 or whatever it's called.
Your water must be too dry.
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:21 PM   #9
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I'm sorry but I'm having visions of Mooseman in a bathtub with a half dozen muzzle loaders saying "get over".I wonder if he uses Irish Spring to tame the smell of sulphur?I wonder how receptive his date is that night?Oh well,whatever,I know he'll do it right! ,,,sam.
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:27 PM   #10
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I use Hot water and dish soap in the bathtub when I scrub My Muzzleloaders...Works just great , then I pour boiling water down the barrel so it dries fast , then I oil it !
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Scrubbin' your muzzleloader, is that what they're calling it these days...?
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:36 PM   #11
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gotta keep that fouling from building up y'know.... i just pour boiling water down the barrel after i swab it out a couple times with soapy water, cabelas muzzleloader solvent, or 1/3 3%H2O2, 1/3 denatured alcohol, and 1/3 Murphy's oil soap, after that the barrel gets swabbed out with some T/C bore butter patches and it's really clean, while it's still hot from the water i usually melt the bore butter on the outside of the barrel to to protect the steel for the long term
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:31 AM   #12
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Scrubbin' your muzzleloader, is that what they're calling it these days...?
Yeah...I reckon !
LMAO...Save water , shower with your Muzzleloader !
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Old 09-17-2009, 04:25 AM   #13
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That's showing "REAL" passion for firearms. ,,,sam.
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Old 09-17-2009, 09:58 AM   #14
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I USE SIMPLE GREEN a household cleaner to clean muzzle loaders. just dip the brush in SIMPLE GREEN brush 10 times. rinse with very hot water then run patchs if not clean enought repeet + finish with boiling water. patch barrel dry greaseor oil with
non petrolum products .
it helps to run a patch down the barrel in a couple days as the lube in the barrel draws out crud from the pores
oh DONT LET THE WIFE FIND OUT HOW GOOD SIMPLE GREEN CLEANS .
I DID NOW SHE ISOFTEN TELLING ME TOM YOU ARE OUT OF GUN CLEANING SOAP.
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Old 09-18-2009, 12:39 AM   #15
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Hot soapy water works for me. I'll do that once for a while, then change the water and do it again. Rinse off and then run a couple patches with Hoppes 9 on it, then run it through the soapy water again. Take a few dry patches, then throw the barrel in the oven on the lowest setting for a while, so thats like 175 or so for a little bit to make sure its good and dry. Then while still warm, butter up a patch with some bore butter and swab the barrel. Outside too after it cools a little more.
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Old 09-18-2009, 12:52 AM   #16
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I have had Windex work really well and when I used to Cowboy Shoot, someone told me of the same receipe that WCassidy posted. Both worked well. Simple green worked well also. Good luck with that. I hate cleaning black powder stuff up. samuel, visions or nightmares?
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Old 09-18-2009, 01:47 AM   #17
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It is a little dirty, but must be done. Gonna have to break out the ML here this weekend maybe, Oct. 3rd is opening day early elk here in WA. Got the first legs of my possibles going too. I'll take some pics and document the process and post some pics when its all said and done!
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Old 09-19-2009, 02:54 PM   #18
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Scrubbin' your muzzleloader, is that what they're calling it these days...?
I don't know what happened...? I was cleaning it and it just went off.
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Old 09-19-2009, 06:38 PM   #19
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I found that hydrogen peroxide works really really well, do not use windex b/c ammonia is cheaper and the ammonia in the windex is what cleans bores.
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Old 09-19-2009, 06:49 PM   #20
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I just throw mine in the creek and go back a couple days later and fetch it then pour boil'in hog lard on it and lean it in a corner.
I wipe it out good fore I use it again...A.H
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