Old 09-17-2009, 01:51 AM   #1
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500 vs. 88

So am I correct in assuming that the only difference between the Mossberg 500, and the Maverick 88 is the location of the safety? And just in case I am incorrect, I am also safely assuming that the Mossberg is better than a Charles Daly, Stoeger or NEF Pardner Pump (not to start an import vs. domestic fight).

Well, I am actually pretty set on snatching a new shotgun, and as long as I can prevent myself from getting a .410 or a Stoeger coach gun (or a Stoeger .410 coach gun) I will get a deal on the Mossberg from Big 5. I am selling an unused gun, and the proceeds will allow me to retire my vintage Poly-choked JC Higgins 12 gauge. I only need something to pop the occasional dove, or soda can, but mainly because 12 gauges are just so supremely viable!
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Old 09-17-2009, 01:54 AM   #2
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The fore-ends are different, and the 88 only has one action arm, compared to the 500's two. I have a 88, my first shottie, had it about 15 years, it seems to be as good as a 500, which I also own. You are correct about the cross-safety on the 88 instead of a tang safety like the 500.
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Old 09-17-2009, 01:56 AM   #3
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Other then the fore-arms and safetys, my 88 and 500/535 are identical.
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Old 09-17-2009, 04:35 AM   #4
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I believe the 88 has two action rails now. ,,,sam.
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Old 09-17-2009, 04:51 AM   #5
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The 88 does have two action rails. I've got one. Personaly I think the H&R Pardner Pump is a better shotgun than the 88 and maybe the Mossberg 500.

Until you handel and own one don't even disagree. The Pardner Pump is almost an 870 clone but it is slightly different in it's on right though some parts and accessories for an 870 will interchange with a Pardner Pump 12ga.

I own a Pardner Pump to. It's a Well of a lot better shotgun than the 88. I aslo own two 870's and the Pardner is a little bit more finished out than an Express 870...A.H
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Old 09-17-2009, 10:50 AM   #6
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The 88 does have two action rails. I've got one. Personaly I think the H&R Pardner Pump is a better shotgun than the 88 and maybe the Mossberg 500.

Until you handel and own one don't even disagree. The Pardner Pump is almost an 870 clone but it is slightly different in it's on right though some parts and accessories for an 870 will interchange with a Pardner Pump 12ga.

I own a Pardner Pump to. It's a Well of a lot better shotgun than the 88. I aslo own two 870's and the Pardner is a little bit more finished out than an Express 870...A.H
Yeah, the Pardner is basically just a Chinese 870, and a recent article said Remington was going to do some legal action, until they just bought the company (Marlin). I did actually have an earlier version that was marketed as the Hawk 98, but it has since been updated to the Hawk 982 (mine was finished a bit sloppy, and the barrel crown was all off kilter). The newer ones seem to be cleaner looking, but I will certainly give them a better look. If I can get them broken down to see their insides, I guess I can check to see the areas that weren't so good before.
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Old 09-17-2009, 09:52 PM   #7
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Metronome were these shotguns the first Pardner Pumps or some other chinese shotguns ?
The Pardner Pumps are made to Marlins exacting spec's and hand assembiled and tested by them in the U.S.A.

One of the best gun test reports I've read for a gun was for a Pardner Pump in comparison with a Remington 870.

Both shotguns were torn down and disected a metel Urligist tested the steel parts of both shotguns and the Pardner Pump was equal to better in quality of steel.

The inside of the reciever of my 20ga. looks as good as my 870 Wingmaster reciever.

This article I'm refering to usaully comes up when you do a search on the Pardner Pump shotguns.
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Old 09-18-2009, 01:26 AM   #8
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Metronome were these shotguns the first Pardner Pumps or some other chinese shotguns ?
I forget where I read it but supposedly the parts are from the same factory which is marketed under IAC Shotguns

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The Pardner Pumps are made to Marlins exacting spec's and hand assembiled and tested by them in the U.S.A.
But you mention that they are assembled here in the US, which really piques my interest. I will certainly give them a look now. It seems that they now have a slight hump on their receiver on the website, but I haven't seen them look that way yet, or perhaps I just didn't notice.
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I thought I'd heard that the 88s had two bars now...but I wasn't sure, my old one with "just" one hasn't been wore out yet...LOL I doubt I'll hurt it in my lifetime.
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:34 AM   #10
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my whole thing with the one action arm is that, i wanted to put a pistol grip forearm on it, and for some reason it said i couldnt, for that reason.
dont know.
I have an 88 with the one arm, and the 500.
both, i have never had a problem with.
except on the 500, it has a synthetic forearm.
and it broke a while back.
but its better now.
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Old 09-21-2009, 01:01 PM   #11
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The Maverick has a pinned forend, the forend is pinned to the action tube assembly making it one piece and not removable from the action tube assemb. As opposed to on the 500 /590( or most other pump guns) where the forend is held on to the action tube by a nut on the end of the assembly. So with a Maverick you cant change the forend out for a aftermarket forend.

A mossberg 500 action tube will fit on a Maverick 88, so if you replace it you can go ahead and put any forend designed for the Moss 500/590 on your 88. All stocks for the 500 will fit the 88 as well with out modificatio.
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Old 09-21-2009, 01:34 PM   #12
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okay. so. where can i find an action tube with the forend to put on my 500.
when i bought mine, it has this stupid synthetic, plastic-type forend that i dont like.
I'd rather have the action tube assembly, so i can change out forends if i want to.
don't really mind it on the 88,
but i want an anti-one-piece forend
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Old 09-21-2009, 01:57 PM   #13
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Jharth43, you can get them from brownells.com
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Old 09-22-2009, 02:21 AM   #14
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I looked on that site. I couldnt find the action tube assembly for the 500A anywhere. but i did find a new "enhanced" metal safety button, compared to the little plastic one.
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Old 09-22-2009, 03:36 PM   #15
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I looked on that site. I couldnt find the action tube assembly for the 500A anywhere. but i did find a new "enhanced" metal safety button, compared to the little plastic one.
Here you go, you would need # 4 & #5 on the schematic.

BROWNELLS : Schematic for MossbergĀ® 500A, 12 Gauge - World's Largest Supplier of Firearm Accessories, Gun Parts and Gunsmithing Tools
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Old 09-23-2009, 08:48 PM   #16
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Thank you for that.
what's the difference in 6 and 3/4 and 7 and 3/4?
any pros and cons?
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Old 09-25-2009, 07:06 PM   #17
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I just bought the Pardner Protector today haven't taken it out of the box paid 225.00 including tax
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Old 09-25-2009, 11:47 PM   #18
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If you must have a folding stock the 88 would be better. Safety is all wrong on the 500 for a folder, just my .02. I have a 500.
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Old 09-28-2009, 04:19 AM   #19
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I can't speak about the Mossbergs as I don't own one.
I do, however, own a Pardner Pump and an 870 Express Magnum. Both in 12 gauge.
I hate to say it, but, the cheaper Pardner is better executed than the 870 Express Magnum, IMO. It's a beefier version of an 870, The receiver appears thicker and the parkerizing is better on my Pardner than my 870. The Pardner came drilled and tapped for scope and has a 5+1 capacity right out of the box. Unlike the standard 870, which had 4+1 cap OOB and no drilling or tapping. Now, the guy I bought my 870 from put on a mag extension, so mine has 6+1. Take off that extension and it's back to 4+1. Finally, the Pardner comes sling ready, the 870 didn't.

I've read elsewhere that the Pardner Pump is more akin to an 870 Police Magnum, a much pricier version of the 870. I personally cannot attest to this because I've never handled an 870 Police Magnum before. This is just what I've read from folks who apparently have handled both.

Finally, I paid $219.99 for my Pardner at Dick's.
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Thank you for that.
what's the difference in 6 and 3/4 and 7 and 3/4?
any pros and cons?
Most of the " tactical " type forends are for the longer lenth assembly ( this is the size used on the 590 model), some manufactuers of shorter lenth tri-rail forends include a adaptor / spacer for use on the 7 3/4 action tubes with their product.
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