Just came across this vid of a guy who machined a new receiver for his 91/30 sniper, not to bad of a job, though the camera guy sucks. He has other vids of it on his youtube page.
I wish Remington would just make a model 700 chambered for the 7.62x54r so that these poor old relics not get the hack saw treatment. Better yet have some company reproduce the Mosin Nagant with enhancements "chromed lined barrel, improved trigger, ect".
I would ask the BATF before removing any numbers but the way I understand it the only number that is important is the serial number on the receiver. With out the receiver a bolt is just a piece of fashioned steel. The receiver is considered the firearm.
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I wish Remington would just make a model 700 chambered for the 7.62x54r so that these poor old relics not get the hack saw treatment. Better yet have some company reproduce the Mosin Nagant with enhancements "chromed lined barrel, improved trigger, ect".
I would buy a model 700 or a ruger or something chambered in 7.62x54r...but I would never own a illegal / retarded mosin nagant.
The original serial number that was assigned to the rifle at the factory in Izhevsk, Tula, or the other two that I can never remember how to spell correctly, does not matter one single bit to the BATF, the serial number they care about is the serial that is now required to be assigned by the importer on their giant billboards on the left sides of the receivers.
For rifles with no import mark, I'm not sure... Does the receiver even have an original serial number on it? Where? Maybe it's just the barrel serial then.
I could not even watch the whole thing! Why would you cut down a barrel 8" when it's a sniper? The idea is okay. (hear me out) A custom WOOD stock, turn down bolt, add a flash hidder, (nice scope and mount, from all I watched) NO plastic parts!!!!!! An Ar pistol grip and collapsable stock??? A PISTOL GRIP!!!! Sorry. Had to compress. Is he using a sndbag for a shoulder pad??? After all is said and done, shouldn't the Bi pod be mounted the other way so it won't catch on any obstructions? Overall---NO!!!
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I agree with Yogi. The mod concept is OK but the AR bits just don't work for a Mosin. It is almost like someone putting a wood stock on a AR and calling it a retro mod or something. Yes it can be done but it shouldn't.
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Say what you will, but that was/is very creative. According to the video the bolt and receiver were both custom machined.
I agree that the choice of a somewhat rare 1928 91/30 (or maybe it was an M91) was a little careless. It would have been better to lop off a counter-bored '43 or '44 but what the hey.
Just consider it the latest generation (2009 model) 1891 Mosin Nagant 3-line rifle.
Next we need to know if it shoots worth a damn.
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It's completely legal. In fact, there are vendors online that sell receiver blanks for AR-15 type rifles. You buy them then machine them out yourself, and you don't have to do any paperwork. No one ever has to know unless you tell them.
I don't see why people flip out every time someone mods their mosin. Mosin shoots a cheap round so therefore its a great platform for a sniper type rifle used for target shooting. i think its pretty sweet. There is clearly a large surplus of these rifles anyway if you can buy them for 80-200 bucks. some of the older ones that have seen action and are actual historic guns they should be preserved, If i were to do this I would have done it to a newer rifle that dont have much history to them.
It's completely legal. In fact, there are vendors online that sell receiver blanks for AR-15 type rifles. You buy them then machine them out yourself, and you don't have to do any paperwork. No one ever has to know unless you tell them.
Right, so then it's NOT legal?
To buy a receiver blank IS legal. But to build a firearm without the knowledge of the BATFE is NOT legal. Isn't there something about a $200 tax for such endeavors? I already had this debate about silencers.
Just because you CAN do it, doesn't mean it's legal. You saying "no one ever has to know unless you tell them" implies to me that you know it's not truly on the up and up.
Was I misinformed? Is it legal to build a firearm on a newly manufactured receiver that has no serial number? I know that before some date (early 1900's I believe) some guns were not required to have serial numbers. They, obviously, would be exempt from such a law; however, that is not what we are talking about here.
Am I wrong here? If so I'll gladly admit that I was either misinformed, or I misinterpreted the laws on this subject.
If I am wrong, then does that mean anybody can build any kind of modern firearm they want to in their garage....or does that "as long as you don't get caught" stipulation apply here?
When buying a 1911 frame from Brownells or Midway it has to go through an FFL. When buying a Savage receiver from the same vendors it also has to go through an FFL. Did I miss something?
To buy a receiver blank IS legal. But to build a firearm without the knowledge of the BATFE is NOT legal. Isn't there something about a $200 tax for such endeavors? I already had this debate about silencers.
Just because you CAN do it, doesn't mean it's legal. You saying "no one ever has to know unless you tell them" implies to me that you know it's not truly on the up and up.
Was I misinformed? Is it legal to build a firearm on a newly manufactured receiver that has no serial number? I know that before some date (early 1900's I believe) some guns were not required to have serial numbers. They, obviously, would be exempt from such a law; however, that is not what we are talking about here.
Am I wrong here? If so I'll gladly admit that I was either misinformed, or I misinterpreted the laws on this subject.
If I am wrong, then does that mean anybody can build any kind of modern firearm they want to in their garage....or does that "as long as you don't get caught" stipulation apply here?
When buying a 1911 frame from Brownells or Midway it has to go through an FFL. When buying a Savage receiver from the same vendors it also has to go through an FFL. Did I miss something?
Sorry guys didn't mean to hijack the thread.
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i'm pretty sure you're mistaken.
you can buy parts kits for guns that are de-milled per atf specs (usually by cutting the receiver in two places with a cutting torch) and build your own receiver to assemble it back to a working firearm without having to register it.
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