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Old 10-07-2009, 09:22 PM   #21
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I have a Trophy Taker I would sell for $30 +shipping if you are interested.

I like it just fine, but I fell into a deal on another rest and don't need it any longer......

as far as the arrow thing you fellas are discussing, weight= kenitic energy and that is where penetration comes from, while you don't need a 450gr arrow to kill a deer, if that's what shoots for you, and you have confidence in it, SHOOT IT!! this would be a boring world if they only made one kind of bow, arrow release, ect.

for what is is worth I like heavy carbon arrows, and 100 gr. cut on contact arrows, good penetration,

you can't get a straighter arrow than alum. period

which trophy taker rest is it exactly?
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Old 10-07-2009, 10:14 PM   #22
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I don't know where CHROMIE got his information but my carbon arrows are straighter than his alluminum and they stay that way which his aluminum will not. I have killed as many as four hogs with one arrow and broadhead that is something that aluminum will not hold up to PERIOD.
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Old 10-08-2009, 01:39 AM   #23
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I don't know where CHROMIE got his information but my carbon arrows are straighter than his alluminum and they stay that way which his aluminum will not. I have killed as many as four hogs with one arrow and broadhead that is something that aluminum will not hold up to PERIOD.
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didn't mean to hit a nerve, and it makes me no difference who shoots what, and I agree the carbon is stronger, I didn't say I had alum. arrows, I don't own an alum arrow anymore, and I got my info from years of testing with an arrow straightness gauge, .....

if you take a dozen carbon arrows, even if advertised +/-.001 and put them on a gauge, and do the same with alum, you will find less variation in the alum....I have spent many hours spinning arrows, this is my findings....I guess your mileage may very.......I was just stating my findings...just for smiles I would like to see a link to a carbon arrow that is straighter than a XX78 super slam...

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Old 10-08-2009, 08:50 AM   #24
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didn't mean to hit a nerve, and it makes me no difference who shoots what, and I agree the carbon is stronger, I didn't say I had alum. arrows, I don't own an alum arrow anymore, and I got my info from years of testing with an arrow straightness gauge, .....

if you take a dozen carbon arrows, even if advertised +/-.001 and put them on a gauge, and do the same with alum, you will find less variation in the alum....I have spent many hours spinning arrows, this is my findings....I guess your mileage may very.......I was just stating my findings...just for smiles I would like to see a link to a carbon arrow that is straighter than a XX78 super slam...

good luck and good shooting

ok, you ask for it. just as straight but better weight tolerance.

Easton XX78 Super Slam
straightness +/- .001"
Weight tolerance +/- 1.0%

Gold Tip Pro Hunter
straightness +/- .001"
Weight tolerance +/- 0.5%

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and by the way, I like the Hostage style rests. NAP makes a similar one that is excellent at less money.

http://www.shopatron.com/products/pr...29781.0.0.0.0?
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:30 AM   #25
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those look like some pretty dang good arrows, and I would be temped to give them a try...but the statement I made was about straightness, and a link to a straighter arrow, and those are no straighter....I do agree that carbon is superior, in toughness, weight tolerance, and accessibility.

Look guys I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do or to shoot, I just stated the facts, I don't make a habit of spouting off at the mouth with no info. get your gauge out and see for yourselves. No matter what, the deer or any other game for that matter, don't care if your broadhead of choice blasts through them in front of a carbon or alum arrow. Shoot what works for you.

good luck and good hunting....
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I'm still shooting aluminums too, so your not the only one. I just hate messing with a great shooting setup. (I got 3 dozen carbons in the closet unused)

besides, I think all of the records are still held by aluminums last I checked.
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:10 PM   #27
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I'm still shooting aluminums too, so your not the only one. I just hate messing with a great shooting setup. (I got 3 dozen carbons in the closet unused)

besides, I think all of the records are still held by aluminums last I checked.
I'm glad they work for you, I shoot Easton A/C/C for 3D, and Easton ST Excel for hunting. I hunt with what ever I get a good deal on when it comes time for more arrows, 2 years ago it was xx78's, a couple years before that it was Gold Tip XT hunters...I have been able to hit a tennis ball at 30 yards with most any arrow, and a good broadhead..

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Old 10-12-2009, 12:25 PM   #28
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im a carbon man myself................i shoot victor VH3s and love'em

as far as rests go id have to go with whisker biscuts
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