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Old 09-21-2009, 09:04 PM   #21
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i have been trying to post something positive each day.
it's not very hard.
i can't speak for other members, but that last sentence was too much info.

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Old 09-21-2009, 09:12 PM   #22
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Kumbaya my lord....Kumbaya...oh...

Other than a few wanderings from the light, I have always tried to make others feel at home here.
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:24 PM   #23
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ive been here a while and i dont talk politics i came too the site it was gun and game not gun and politics ive learned alot of good here and still love it here so keep up the good and thanks chris banning is a needed thing to keep the site running some things explained would help saves from the rear scratching
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:33 PM   #24
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i came here to learn about guns and reloading for same.
i ended up meeting a lot of great folks.
the only thing that i dont like about this place is the politics.
all it does is cause fights.
for the fun of it i just did a search for U.S. political forums.
i got 509,000,000 hits.
yeah
there are over 1/2 BILLION sites to argue on.
why pollute this one?
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There has been alot of good stuff posted in this thread. Chris is doing a good job and I thank him for keeping this thing going.
Mrs Bro Bob and Bunny you 2 have said alot and I agree with all of it. The biggest one being that for most of us who dont read every post it would be nice to know who said what so that the rest of us dont run into the same problems.
Maybe we should get rid of the political stuff?
thats what i think
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:33 PM   #25
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Ok, I'll do it. I like Pie
Seriously. Thanks OX, your a good leader. Alot of good additional comments from very respected people as well.

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Old 09-22-2009, 08:42 AM   #26
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Oxford, As much as I agree with most of your thread, I do have a comment to make regarding the portion of the thread highlighted in "red". Some time ago, Chris let all of us know that if we ever had any issues regarding problems on the forum that all we had to do was PM him. It appears that he is too busy to answer them, thus resulting in problems.

The statement about members behaving in a mature and responsible manner should also apply to moderators. This site has a few "over zealous" mods that "shoot first and ask questions later". This may be considered flaming mods, but if mods are going to get into the middle of discussions and voice an opinion rather than moderate and also usurp another moderator in front of their peers, which I believe to be highly unprofessional, what are we to think?

Another issue I am constantly accused of being my husband (Brother Bob) when I choose to post on the site. I don't visit as often as most, but occasionally I do have something to say. Bob and I have made many friends on the forum and since he is unable to get on the site, I have taken over trying to keep in touch with them when I can.

Another issue I feel should be addressed is that the rules and regulations are not administered/applied fairly across the board. Too much favoritism here lately. This has been noticed by other on the forum also. You have some folks that are quite literally afraid to post anymore and have quit frequenting the site.

If Chris' intention is to grow this forum, then these issues need to be addressed/corrected.
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Old 09-22-2009, 09:24 AM   #27
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Old 09-22-2009, 09:42 AM   #28
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I love this place. Like belonging to a club you go to at nite to relax. I belong to other forums. One that comes to mind would ban just about everyone on this one just for being a "kewl".
You have to really do something over and over to be banned from this site.
I decided some time ago to just stay out of the politics and stick to the firearms as much as possible.
Good job Chris and Mods.
Keep up the good work.
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Old 09-22-2009, 10:15 AM   #29
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I agree with Capt'n Mil Coll. I don't see it as a private club, though; but rather a gathering of people around the potbellied stove in the general store, sitiing in comfortble old chairs and talking about mutual interests. Occasionally someone will get tee'd off and rant, then storm out, just as in the real world. But the rest will just open the door, throw another chunk on the fire and continue the discussions.

It's a warm and confortable place to me. Hey, as long as you're up, would you mind topping my coffee off from the pot on the stove?
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Old 09-22-2009, 11:25 AM   #30
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I agree with a lot of what has been posted thus far. I must be different or have thick skin because I have yet to read anything that has offended me on this site. I have read many views that I disagree with but again I respect those persons views right wrong or indifferent. If you read a post that upsets you and you feel compelled to rebut, maybe you should click off the post and think about what you are going to say. I know I have read a few posts and gotten fired up and started to write up a lengthy reply when I decided I needed to take a step back and calm down and be a little more civilized. After all this is the internet and arguing on the internet is pointless.
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Old 09-22-2009, 11:41 AM   #31
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I agree with a lot of what has been posted thus far. I must be different or have thick skin because I have yet to read anything that has offended me on this site. I have read many views that I disagree with but again I respect those persons views right wrong or indifferent. If you read a post that upsets you and you feel compelled to rebut, maybe you should click off the post and think about what you are going to say. I know I have read a few posts and gotten fired up and started to write up a lengthy reply when I decided I needed to take a step back and calm down and be a little more civilized. After all this is the internet and arguing on the internet is pointless.
I completely agree with what you said, sometimes it is hard to be civil but I try my best and hope that I do not offend too many people... Once I get beyond 1,000 posts I plan on becoming a contributing member because G&G is my second family and I know I am on here everyday looking at what is new.
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Old 09-22-2009, 11:47 AM   #32
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Just to add my 2 cents into the thread. People are human and have emotions. Too many times we let our emotions speak before our hearts have time to digest what was written.

We CAN disagree and still be respectful to others. Reagan was the best at doing just that. Whether you agree with Reagan or not ya gotta admit...even his worst rivals respected him.

Thank you, Chris for making this site happen. Thanks to the moderators who work so hard to keep things going smoothly. And thanks to all of those members who have wanted to tell me to take a long walk on a short pier for not sending that "post".
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Old 09-22-2009, 12:52 PM   #33
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I know people that don't like me now...But it's my fault. For getting involved but it's hard not to when there is or was so much Brotherly Love here. To some here it is like a 2nd. family and family's have spats some time...A.H
AH, there isn't a member here who thinks you have a mean bone in your body. I personally always look forward to your posts. Your concern for all of us rings loud and clear. I consider you a friend. There are many of us who enjoy coming here to be with their extended families, as you said. So no more to yourself!
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:05 PM   #34
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Time for financial support to G&G?

This might be a good place and time to remind all of us that for $10 a year you can be a financially contributing member. The economy is bad right now, but if you can swing it, that would be a good way to show support for this site. How many of us are on G&G several times a day, 365 per year. To me personally, my $10 has been money well spent, because I've made a lot of friends and learned a tremendous amount of information from people whose knowledge I respect. Actually, $10 couldn't buy those.
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:26 PM   #35
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Thank You Woody but fact is I got caught up in all the political issues that were being posted and I posted a lot of them.
I became some what bitter and angry due to what our President and his party is trien to push down our throats.

And because of it and friends were banned . I got peeved.

I relized later the political stuff is not worth being bitter and angry about or hurt over.
Yet some of the political stuff is worth knowing about because you may not hear about it other wise

Once some members etablished wether a Thread was Fact or Fiction it's seems silly now that it was debated with some threads more than others.

I guess it's human nature to debate LOL But really what can you accomplish here ? When instead you should be contacting your representitives if it pertained to goverment issues.

Anyway I'd still like to see the one's banned un-banned but it's not my site and I'm no longer angry. And I don't like being that way.

So I'm go'in back to just be'in me...A.H
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:31 PM   #36
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Yeah Jerry, I like pie too!
That said, I feel like closing threads and banning people for a cooloff period are the Mods. business. Since I am not one, I try to keep my nose out of their business.
I do feel that a permanent ban causes the forum to be a loser of all the information that person had to contribute and, since Chris is the forum owner, I think a permanent ban should be his decision to make.
Pass me a big piece of the Egg Custard pie, please.
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:33 PM   #37
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I see whats going on as a battle of the "TITANS".Mooseman claims that Troy and TLarkin (strong liberals) got nasty with him and SBowers and boots them and to even the playing field TexasT decides to boot a conservative because he "insulted"her.SeabeeScotty pm,d me and offered this scenario and it sounds about right to me.Troy started a new forum and TexasT is a member,very active and she told Troy that he and TLarkin had told the truth so I take it that she is on that side and Mooseman pm,d me "just to let me know".All of this can be verified by the powers that be going into my PM,s and reading whats there and going to Troys new forum and reading what TexasT posted. I allowed myself to get involved because I liked BrotherBob and Troy equally and saw no real reason for the banning as noone was doing anything they hadn't done for as long as I've known them.As for me,I don't give a shit.Maybe when "THE BATTLE OF THE TITANS"ends and the power struggle is over I may come back.(probably only to find I am banned for once again telling the truth.)It seems that truth is undesirable on this forum. ,,,sam.(sad sam)
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:35 PM   #38
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I stopped frequenting the site and returned about a month ago on a limited bases. I joined a different forum and frequent it much more often then I do gun and game now. I hit the gun and game about a tenth as often as I used to, and generally just to research old posts pertaining to a new collectible I am about to pick up. I personally got fed up with what was quickly becoming "the most liberal gun site on the net." There are many, many gun forums out there and this is the only one I still go to that the political threads cause problems. I feel confident in stating that the political threads are a symptom, not the issue. I don't have a fix for you, because this is the only place I see the problem.

True or not, the impression here is you will get the thread locked or banned if you disagree with liberal's straw man, non canon, or non-factual argument and choose to argue back. You have/had several trolls that appear to make it a point to cause trouble. They have been getting away with it for a very long time, and anyone who stands up and says "enough" disappears. I don't see this ever being my go-to site again.

Your mileage may vary, but that is the general consensus of everyone I knew locally who frequented the site. We have pretty much given up and moved on. This site could stand to be more about information sharing again instead of the feel-good ego-boosting bonanza it has become.

Flame on.
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:45 PM   #39
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troy2000 started his own forum?
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:48 PM   #40
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Too much time on peoples hands.
Far too personal, get outside, go shooting,spend time with your families and freinds.
Your energy and imagination are a terrible thing to waste.
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