[ArkansasHunter]

Quote:       Originally Posted by BaserRonin

I stopped frequenting the site and returned about a month ago on a limited bases. I joined a different forum and frequent it much more often then I do gun and game now. I hit the gun and game about a tenth as often as I used to, and generally just to research old posts pertaining to a new collectible I am about to pick up. I personally got fed up with what was quickly becoming "the most liberal gun site on the net." There are many, many gun forums out there and this is the only one I still go to that the political threads cause problems. I feel confident in stating that the political threads are a symptom, not the issue. I don't have a fix for you, because this is the only place I see the problem. True or not, the impression here is you will get the thread locked or banned if you disagree with liberal's straw man, non canon, or non-factual argument and choose to argue back. You have/had several trolls that appear to make it a point to cause trouble. They have been getting away with it for a very long time, and anyone who stands up and says "enough" disappears. I don't see this ever being my go-to site again. Your mileage may vary, but that is the general consensus of everyone I knew locally who frequented the site. We have pretty much given up and moved on. This site could stand to be more about information sharing again instead of the feel-good ego-boosting bonanza it has become. Flame on.

Your sure entitled to your oppinion but your wrong. When Chris allowed the Political threads to resume, the ones that pertisipated in them showed with out a dought how crappy political threads can become and DID !!!.

I see now why they were stopped before I became a member here.
Theres never a happy ending and know one ever comes to agreement.

And like I said in my above post...What did it accomplish debateing them here ??? Tell me I beg you ???

Did we change Washington here ??? Tell me I beg you ??? LMAO !!!

Does our representitives come here to get advice ??? Tell me I beg you ??? ROFL !!!

Doe's Obama come here to gauge public oppinon ??? Don't bother to tell me because none of them do LOL.

Political threads normaly go south and become PISSING contest and in turn cause Ill's as I've learned.

Thats my oppinion and I wish no hard feelings...A.H

[BaserRonin]

Quote:       Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

Your sure entitled to your oppinion but your wrong. When Chris allowed the Political threads to resume, the ones that pertisipated in them showed with out a dought how crappy political threads can become and DID !!!. I see now why they were stopped before I became a member here. Theres never a happy ending and know one ever comes to agreement. And like I said in my above post...What did it accomplish debateing them here ??? Tell me I beg you ??? Did we change Washington here ??? Tell me I beg you ??? LMAO !!! Does our representitives come here to get advice ??? Tell me I beg you ??? ROFL !!! Doe's Obama come here to gauge public oppinon ??? Don't bother to tell me because none of them do LOL. Political threads normaly go south and become PISSING contest and in turn cause Ill's as I've learned. Thats my oppinion and I wish no hard feelings...A.H

AH, it accomplished getting the site a rep as very liberal. Try to talk back to a liberal here and see how fast you get banned. The Mods here like to go after the symptom, not the disease. The Trolls need to be gone before this site will grow any further. I would not be surprised to see that I get this thread locked because of this post actually.

You are wrong that political threads always degenerate into pissing contests as well. This is the only gun forum I belong to that this occurs. We have trouble makers who like to push the envelope with the result of getting others flagged and eventually removed. If the Mods can't control this, the political postings need to be banned completely. Maybe they have, as I stated, I have not been a very active participant here for a while. I stopped caring.

[HEMI]

Some of the people here I doubt if they even shoot.

[White Rook]

I for one shoot. I'm a NRA member. I am also a member of a Gun Glub and have been since I got out of the Air Force in 1986. I am going Saturday with friends and co-workers to shoot some clays.

[Dragunov]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Cyrano

I agree with Capt'n Mil Coll. I don't see it as a private club, though; but rather a gathering of people around the potbellied stove in the general store, sitiing in comfortble old chairs and talking about mutual interests. Occasionally someone will get tee'd off and rant, then storm out, just as in the real world. But the rest will just open the door, throw another chunk on the fire and continue the discussions. It's a warm and confortable place to me. Hey, as long as you're up, would you mind topping my coffee off from the pot on the stove?

Couldn't have said it any better myself.

[lvlt]

Quote:       Originally Posted by BaserRonin

AH, it accomplished getting the site a rep as very liberal. Try to talk back to a liberal here and see how fast you get banned. The Mods here like to go after the symptom, not the disease. The Trolls need to be gone before this site will grow any further. I would not be surprised to see that I get this thread locked because of this post actually. You are wrong that political threads always degenerate into pissing contests as well. This is the only gun forum I belong to that this occurs. We have trouble makers who like to push the envelope with the result of getting others flagged and eventually removed. If the Mods can't control this, the political postings need to be banned completely. Maybe they have, as I stated, I have not been a very active participant here for a while. I stopped caring.

baseronin,
or my wife is putting in my coffee. ( it was supposed to say kool aid)
if you, and your friends think this is a liberal biased site, can i come and hang out with u guys?
most of the people i see on a regular basis and even my long, long, term friends consider most of my world views to be between eccentric and paranoid.
i don't express them here, mostly just poke fun at people.

pat

[rl69]

one thing that debating on this forum has done is make me more politically active i never wrote my reps before i joined here it has made me start researching facts instead of just passing info i hear it my not change Washington but it might change someone around me

[billy]

Quote:       Originally Posted by HEMI

Too much time on peoples hands. Far too personal, get outside, go shooting,spend time with your families and freinds. Your energy and imagination are a terrible thing to waste.

this is just a toy.
it aint real life.

[neophyte]

billy: Sir; can we add pigon feet and beer to the menu With some "chocolate" ice cream

[.22hustler]

Quote:       Originally Posted by White Rook

troy2000 started his own forum?

yes....

[Bigfoot]

I look forward to clicking on here most every day when i get a chance. Can't wait to see what the latest topics are, and who has what to say. Good job with the site , hope its here for a long time.

[lvlt]

Quote:       Originally Posted by samuel

I see whats going on as a battle of the "TITANS".Mooseman claims that Troy and TLarkin (strong liberals) got nasty with him and SBowers and boots them and to even the playing field TexasT decides to boot a conservative because he "insulted"her.SeabeeScotty pm,d me and offered this scenario and it sounds about right to me.Troy started a new forum and TexasT is a member,very active and she told Troy that he and TLarkin had told the truth so I take it that she is on that side and Mooseman pm,d me "just to let me know".All of this can be verified by the powers that be going into my PM,s and reading whats there and going to Troys new forum and reading what TexasT posted. I allowed myself to get involved because I liked BrotherBob and Troy equally and saw no real reason for the banning as noone was doing anything they hadn't done for as long as I've known them.As for me,I don't give a shit.Maybe when "THE BATTLE OF THE TITANS"ends and the power struggle is over I may come back.(probably only to find I am banned for once again telling the truth.)It seems that truth is undesirable on this forum. ,,,sam.(sad sam)

sam.

i really enjoy your posts no matter what the topic is.

pat

[Chris]

To me it just says we can't handle political threads. It was something I already knew, but I gave it a shot.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.

Let me thank Joe for posting this and many members posting here with their honest and open thoughts.

[Da Mc]

Last week I saw a program on the Sportsman channel called" Pig Bomb". It portrayed an epidemic of cross breed feral/russian boars especially in Georgia and Texas. It looked to me like another "Guns of Autumn " scare. It showed a hunter firing off rounds at a pig with a short barreled assault style rifle with the pig running around like crazy. Looked like fodder for the bleeding heart animal rights activists. Is this program for real or is it a bunch of B.S. cuz all they were showing could just be isolated incidents all put together to scare the general public. Any comments on this anyone?

[scienceman]

Did I say something Wrong? My post disappeared????

[samuel]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Chris

To me it just says we can't handle political threads. It was something I already knew, but I gave it a shot. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. Let me thank Joe for posting this and many members posting here with their honest and open thoughts.

It's my personal opinion it wasn't the indians that caused the "BIG STINK",it was the chiefs.There is nothing wrong with an argument,or even more in my opinion.What always happens is two pepole are getting something straight and along comes a third party,uninvolved,and the fight starts.I have been hurt worse by people trying to break a fight up than I ever was by the oponent.I don't think I want to live without the "first amendment" that I fought so hard to protect. ,,,sam.

[HEMI]

Whats Troys site called: Flame and game?

[billy]

i belong to a bunch of gun forums.
every one of them (except G&G) has politics and religion in a completely separate section from the miscellaneous daily chit chat which is what the powder keg is.
the politics and religion are down at the bottom of the page when you open the website.
and there is a disclaimer that anything goes.

[Burke]

Quote:       Originally Posted by lvlt

i find the powder keg so boring now, no rebuttals, mostly the poorly informed running amok agreeing with each other.

that is about right...a powder keg by definition is a pretty explosive thing.

[samuel]

Quote:       Originally Posted by billy

i belong to a bunch of gun forums. every one of them (except G&G) has politics and religion in a completely separate section from the miscellaneous daily chit chat which is what the powder keg is. the politics and religion are down at the bottom of the page when you open the website. and there is a disclaimer that anything goes.

I believe everyone should have the right to be childish sometime.I agree it should be kept seperate.I also think the only moderation should be if lives are absolutely threatened.I also question someone that posts they feel it is wrong.How did they decide it was wrong if they weren't involved?When I used to go in a rough bar I expected to at least see a fight.If I hadn't wanted to see a fight I wouldn't have gone there. ,,,sam.