Old 09-27-2009, 02:19 PM   #1
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There is a group here calling themselves part of the 9.12 project. They have 9 principles and 12 values as shown in the link. Have any of you guys got representation of this group in your area? They say it's a national thing. If the link doesn't work, you should be able to google 9.12 project with good results. I guess Glenn Beck started it, but the principles and values should ring true with a lot of people. I wonder if it will take off?

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Old 09-27-2009, 03:02 PM   #2
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From what I have seen it has taken off pretty good. The reports on the 9-12 teaparty in DC a couple weeks ago wer around 2 million on the lawn and god knows how many around the city.
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Old 09-27-2009, 03:40 PM   #3
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The 9/12 project is based on the 9 principles and 12 values.

The 9 principles are:

1. America is good
2. I believe in God and He is the center of my life
3. I must always try to be a more honest person than I was yesterday
4. The family is sacred. My spouse and I are the ultimate authority, not the government.
5. If you break the law you pay the penalty. Justice is blind and no one is above it.
6. I have a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, but there is no guarantee of equal results.
7. I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable.
8. It is not un-American for me to disagree with authority or to share my personal opinion.
9. The government works for me. I do not answer to them, they answer to me.


The 12 values are:

1. Honesty
2. Reverence
3. Hope
4. Thrift
5. Humility
6. Charity
7. Sincerity
8. Moderation
9. Hard work
10. Courage
11. Personal Responsibility
12. Gratitude

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/what-...s-9-12-project
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Old 09-27-2009, 04:15 PM   #4
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We're a part of our local 9:12 Project. We've done Tea Parties locally, at the state capital, and the one in DC. We meet once a week and do studies. Our small group is 10-12 people and there are something like 15 other study groups in the area. Our first study was the book called "5000 Year Leap." It's well worth the price for the book if you've never read it.

Now we are doing a study on the Constitution itself. I would recommend joining your local study group and seeing what it's about.
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Old 09-27-2009, 07:34 PM   #5
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Principle 2 just blew it for me.

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Old 09-27-2009, 08:20 PM   #6
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9.12 sounds like a good general plan to me,it may need a bit of tweaking for some,but I like it.
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Old 09-27-2009, 09:42 PM   #8
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That list pretty much eliminates every politician present, past and future. I also see that civility is not one of the values. That would've made it a really small group.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:26 AM   #9
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JBS' "The Freedom Index" gives a pretty accurate overview of how our congress is voting, IAW with the US Constitution...

...and here's info on such and the last index they published:

The Freedom Index

http://www.thenewamerican.com/files/...ndex_110-4.pdf

Taking a look at Ron Paul's voting record in "The Freedom Index" indicates that he's matching up nicely with the 9.12 Project...

...and there are some others that come pretty close.

So, it may be a bit early to determine that the 9.12 Project "...eliminates every politician present, past and future."?

Since I've not got a crystal ball...

...I'm unable to determine how congress will be voting in the future.
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Old 10-01-2009, 05:10 AM   #10
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Principle 2 just blew it for me.

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Old 10-01-2009, 05:41 AM   #11
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The people I know that observe Principle #2, for the most part, do a good job observing all the others.
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Old 10-01-2009, 06:00 AM   #12
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The people I know that observe Principle #2, for the most part, do a good job observing all the others.
i dont need the fear of punishment from a supernatural being to make me a moral person.

ok
i better stop now before i offend.
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Old 10-01-2009, 06:21 AM   #13
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If you don't like principle #2 then don't read it and move on.
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America BEFORE God??!? What's he gonna think when that get's back to him? If you can't follow the Ten Commandments, how you gonna follow 12 principles? Putting anything before the Lord violates the First Commandment.
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If you don't like principle #2 then don't read it and move on.
if you dont like my response.
don't read it and move on.
it goes both ways
peace be with you.
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Old 10-01-2009, 07:21 AM   #16
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I joined the 912 Project awhile back.
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:21 AM   #18
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sounds like a good group to be with. there are worse things than believing in God but to each their own. You don't have to believe in God to be a good moral person.
And Rambo I do Agree that one can not place country before God.
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Old 10-01-2009, 12:17 PM   #19
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+1 palladin8, i was just about to say something along those lines...

the thought proccess behind the movement is sound, if you dont believe in god then just omit that one and replace it with moral fiber, you dont have to disregard everything because of one thing... i like the concept, but will not join, keep up the good fight though!
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Old 10-01-2009, 12:46 PM   #20
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I'm in, I live in Cali. Where do I join? Info please?
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