I have a yearning for a small 1911, either 9mm or .45 - I don't need to add .40 to my ammo needs. The ones I can think of offhand (no shooting pun intended) are the Kimber Custom Carry II series, the Para Warthog series, and the Springfield EMP. I have seen a Detonics at a show, but it seemed very heavy. I know Star made the PD a while back. I'm wondering what else is out there and what you guys think of each.
I would like an ambi safety and as many other ambi controls as possible, single action only trigger, hammer instead of striker fired, sights with adjustment in them if available, and a light rail wouild be nice.
Thanks for helping me think about if and how to spend my money.
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Of course as always it depends on how much you want to spend. If it were up to me and I had the exorbidant(i think thats the word) amount of money to throw around I'd go with the Kimber or the Para.
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Believe it or not I like the High Standard I got a chance to shoot one and it out shot my two full size guns they are made in Indonesia or someplace like that but are very high quality. I also like Springfield Arm. there is one at the local gun shop I would love to get.
Do you know if that was the gun or the way it was held?
The Fin down here has Kimber Crimson Carry models - all 3 series - on sale for $900 this month. That's the ones with the blued slides, no palm swell on the grip safety. I hate that little bump on the bottom of the safety myself. I find it noticeable and uncomfortable.
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The SA EMP comes in 9 and 40, The Para Wart hog is too small for me, would be good for a women's hands. I personally have the SS Loaded Champ, one of the best guns Springfield made.
I have a yearning for a small 1911, either 9mm or .45 - I don't need to add .40 to my ammo needs. The ones I can think of offhand (no shooting pun intended) are the Kimber Custom Carry II series, the Para Warthog series, and the Springfield EMP. I have seen a Detonics at a show, but it seemed very heavy. I know Star made the PD a while back. I'm wondering what else is out there and what you guys think of each.
I would like an ambi safety and as many other ambi controls as possible, single action only trigger, hammer instead of striker fired, sights with adjustment in them if available, and a light rail wouild be nice.
Thanks for helping me think about if and how to spend my money.
Kimber Pro CDP II. We own two. VERY nice.
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I got myself a Kimber TLE II with night sights in 4" Commander style configuration a while back. I traded a Para Ordnance P12 in on it. The Para was a great gun, don't get me wrong, the double stack mag well was just a little too big for conceal carry. It had a little 3 inch barrel, but really shot quite well. Here is a pic of my TLE II with some grips I stained I made out of oak. The barrel length is good at 4". Easy to operate. I don't need any ambi controls as I shoot right handed. And in a rare instance I would need to shoot left handed I'd manage. BUT, I do like a extended slide release (mine is currently on my SA Mil-Spec), and an extended thumb safety just for that little bit of extra leverage makes it easier to engage or disengage them. But you can really get ambi safety at any time. You might have to have it fitted to the gun. As far as ambi slide release or mag release, you might be looking at expensive stuff there. The front grip strap is checkered which is nice while shooting, and the mainspring housing is plastic, and is also checkered. Its a comfy gun to shoot.
Here it is in the stock configuration with the rubberized grip panels.
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I'm partial to the Kimber Ultra Carry II since I bought it for CCW duty. It has been flawless thus far. I can't speak for the others, but I love all my Kimbers.
I have held the Kimber and the Springfield you are speeking of. Both are awsome LITTLE guns. For the firepower of a .45 I think they are a bit too small. I'd go with a 9mm. I was looking for the same thing when my local dealer pointed me in the way of a Dan Wesson Bobtail Classic in .45 ACP. It has all the features you asked for except the light rail but its about a 1/2in. longer barrel and handgrip. But conceals just as well as the others. The dealer also garanteed it to shoot better than the other guns. And it was less money. Just my 2 cents and experience.
I personally carry a Rock Island Armory Compact model. Same thing as a Colt Officer's ACP. 3.5" barrel, standard M1911A1 platform. They're around $400, depending on where you get it, mine came from Sarco. Very reliable and accurate, and I can't see spending big bucks on a pistol that's going to get banged around in the rigors of daily carry duty. Mine has Crimson Trace Lasergrips on it now.
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