10-10-2009, 04:37 PM
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#21 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Originally Posted by travisg96  | I think he is asking if a solenoid has enough force to set off a primer. I think the long and the short of it is I do not think a solenoid(like off a gm starter I assume) would have enough force to set off a primer. Now if you used the solenoid to replace the trigger it might work. All I have to ask is why would you want to do that anyway.
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I've fired a GM solenoid when it's not mounted and I'm fairly confident it would set off a primer if fitted with a firing pin (or in replace of the hammer).
as to why someone would want to do this? WHY NOT!?!?!
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10-10-2009, 04:59 PM
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#22 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by minkis | I've fired a GM solenoid when it's not mounted and I'm fairly confident it would set off a primer if fitted with a firing pin (or in replace of the hammer).
as to why someone would want to do this? WHY NOT!?!?! |
sure, but you don't need something that big to accomplish the task. even the small solenoids used as throttle kickers on the later carburated cars (used to bump up the throttle when the A/C engaged) would work. even the little ones used in all auto transmissions anymore would work (depending on its particular design). what matters is the length of the plunger motion and the actual weight of the plunger core. sharpen the core plunger to a point and you have a electronically driven firing pin. depending on how you use it could depend on if ATF will want to spank you for it, because the duty cycle rate could be tuned to make a semi a full auto.
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10-11-2009, 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by deadzero | sure, but you don't need something that big to accomplish the task. even the small solenoids used as throttle kickers on the later carburated cars (used to bump up the throttle when the A/C engaged) would work. even the little ones used in all auto transmissions anymore would work (depending on its particular design). what matters is the length of the plunger motion and the actual weight of the plunger core. sharpen the core plunger to a point and you have a electronically driven firing pin. depending on how you use it could depend on if ATF will want to spank you for it, because the duty cycle rate could be tuned to make a semi a full auto. | oh yea, definitely would catch ATF's eye. I can't speak for certain but it seems if it were to fire a shell it would still have to comply to length restrictions. You would definitely need to make it in a way that there is no chance of it firing twice or more per activation, and just to make sure make it a manual action.
sounds fun, but i'l stick with things that don't attract federal employees.
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10-20-2009, 11:13 AM
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#24 | | Firearm Zealot
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You could turn a DC motor attached to a crank, rod, piston [firing pin] like a car engine, inline pistons and provide multi barrels for it. Or do it with an array of solenoids. I'm sure the Military has a rapid fire shotgun.
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10-20-2009, 11:37 AM
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#25 | | Firearm Zealot
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I'll bet that setup where you could hunt by remote control,a solinoid sets those guns off.As to power,it takes a few lbs or less to pull a trigger and the average hammer spring has 10 to 25lbs force.The electro-magnet developes into the hundreds of lbs and the return spring varies greatly but some seem as strong as hammer springs. ,,,sam.
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10-20-2009, 11:40 AM
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#26 | | Firearm Zealot
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I heard of a guy that had some 22 shells in his pocket and he put a battery in it and some went off.
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10-20-2009, 11:53 AM
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#27 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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A whole lot of speculation going on here. Yes a solenoid can fire a primer. Starter solenoids are just one type of hundreds of types of solenoids. Did you know that your electronic fuel injectors are solenoids? I'm sure there are solenoids small enough with enough power to set off a primer. Why couldn't the orig poster be thinking of an electrically fired sholder weapon? A small battery operated solenoid in the receiver assy. isn't that odd of an idea! Put a point on the armature of a linear solenoid and use that for the firing pin. Or make the entire bolt assy a solenoid, EASY! I don't see why this would be illegal, just another way to fire a gun, and I don't think there are any restrictions on that (like bbl lengths. stocks, number of round fired per trigger activation, caliber, etc.)
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10-21-2009, 12:34 PM
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#28 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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u would need to strike the primer
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11-02-2009, 05:01 PM
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#29 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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sounds like somebody is trying to protect his weed crop
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