[west]

Greetings- I am trying to identify a hunting rifle here, bolt action, scoped, rifle stamped k k k (spaces between letters) on the top of barrel and other places on it. Sorry, no digital camera to share photo's.

Without any kind of disassembly, there doesn't seem to be any other manufacturer, model number etc information on it.

I'm a not hunter, don't own firearms. Doesn't mean I don't shoot or know basic firearm information.

The bore is on the small side and there is a strap on the stock. My google searching all goes to the Klan information, no joy there. Thank You in advance for any information you offer and I can inspect it further should anyone post onto this thread.

[Mooseman684]

Well , I have never heard of KKK Brand in all the years I been doing this. It could be any number of things including a custom builders Initials , But without pictures, we cant even Id What action it is or anything...sorry.

Welcome to G&G Anyway , and maybe someone else here will come along and help you.

Rich

[thrillbilly]

Does it appear to be a factory built sporter or is it a converted military rifle perhaps?

[Palladin8]

It doesn't have a WHITE HOODED front sight does it?

[wunhunglo]

Quote:       Originally Posted by palladin8

it doesn't have a white hooded front sight does it?

rotflmao

[Metronome]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Palladin8

It doesn't have a WHITE HOODED front sight does it?

Omg, that got me!

Hmm, lets see here, how about some measurements? how long is the barrel, and how long is the action between the two sections of the reciever, and are there any other markings such as crests? Are there sights and if so are they simple or are there writing or other numbers on them?

[big boomer]

You will have to get us a pic. if it is a Klan gun there are people who collect such things.

[west]

Thanks for all the input from a group of super and senior guys. after posting here I found a group discussing Finnish Stock Discs with folks there listing what letters and in what order they present on the discs. several reported letters k k k and one photo showed a disc on a pistol. so that is a information direction I have now.

Thrill- its a factory built sporter

Metro- I'll post some additional info, Thanks

Big B- yes, I'll persuade someone with a digital camera to photo it

Moose- bolt action (3rd word in thread title)

Palla- now everybody wants the coffee he's drinking

west edit-
Metro- approx 2 feet long with no front sight, on section of barrel where front scope mount is: 686888 stamped in 1/4" tall characters, U.S. above k k k is stamped on opposite side, wood sport stock with checkering, no recoil cushion, opposite side of bolt lever is what appears to be a large ish steel hinged safety tab with large ON stamped on face & straight knurl on top of tab. slightly less that 1/4" dia. screw slid into barrel end. and my magnifying lens just discovered FAJEN on plastic stock butt plate. I'll search Fagen now.

[Mooseman684]

Thanks for the response West.
When I was referrred to action , knowing it is a Bolt action, There are Numerous bolt actions like Mauser Large ring or Small ring , Enfield, Springfield, Mosin , etc.
You might as well say , "I have a gun , what is it ?" This is why we ask for Pictures , and closeup ones at that.
Finnish stock disc stampings have Nothing to do with Manufacturer stamps on your rifle...They are just Date code and sighting Info discs.
I even looked at the possibility of it being a "Triple K" but they dont make guns !
Rich

[thrillbilly]

Pallidin...that was a beauty! LOL went right under the radar and nailed me! Still laughing a little!

[wunhunglo]

West,
I knew Moose wouldn't take long to educate you on the Action. I considered replying myself but thought better of it.

[west]

wunhung- in this part of hayseedville we say "lern" Lern that boy!

[thrillbilly]

Well at this point...I don't think we can lern ya without some pics...sorry.

If ya aint done so already...take it out of the stock and check ALL the metal for more markings...might be some hid under the wood.

[west]

west update- now I know it is in a Fajen stock. I borrowed some .jpg's from other discussion groups as examples, enhanced them for viewing to show the plastic butt plate and the plate under the receiver. EXAMPLES only. (since I have no digital camera)

at this point, a hearty Thanks for all your help and interest in case the thread dies here.

[JimBob]

Quote:       Originally Posted by west

Thanks for all the input from a group of super and senior guys. after posting here I found a group discussing Finnish Stock Discs with folks there listing what letters and in what order they present on the discs. several reported letters k k k and one photo showed a disc on a pistol. so that is a information direction I have now. Thrill- its a factory built sporter Metro- I'll post some additional info, Thanks Big B- yes, I'll persuade someone with a digital camera to photo it Moose- bolt action (3rd word in thread title) Palla- now everybody wants the coffee he's drinking west edit- Metro- approx 2 feet long with no front sight, on section of barrel where front scope mount is: 686888 stamped in 1/4" tall characters, U.S. above k k k is stamped on opposite side, wood sport stock with checkering, no recoil cushion, opposite side of bolt lever is what appears to be a large ish steel hinged safety tab with large ON stamped on face & straight knurl on top of tab. slightly less that 1/4" dia. screw slid into barrel end. and my magnifying lens just discovered FAJEN on plastic stock butt plate. I'll search Fagen now.

Sounds like a sporterized M1903 Springfield.If so that serial number is in the low numbered range.Does your action look like the one illustrated here http://vishooter.home.att.net/m1903/1934_rifle.jpg In its details?Ie tab with "On" and other areas of similiarity?

[thrillbilly]

Does it look anything like this? Not the whole rifle maybe, but the bolt handle or sites. Does the specs and measurments fit your rifle at all?

M1903 Springfield - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[rebel727]

Sounds like an 03 to me too.

[Purdy]

Sounds like someone sporterized a '03 with a Fajen stock.

[west]

west update
I sense we really are getting closer to an ID regardless of whether or not we understand why there are 3 small k k k"s all over the rifle (a phrase). This has always been about giving this piece a strong ID so that it can be spoken of accurately. Now I have to go get a tooth pulled so I may not update in the immediate future. (woos)

[Metronome]

Quote:       Originally Posted by west

west update I sense we really are getting closer to an ID regardless of whether or not we understand why there are 3 small k k k"s all over the rifle (a phrase). This has always been about giving this piece a strong ID so that it can be spoken of accurately. Now I have to go get a tooth pulled so I may not update in the immediate future. (woos)

I am really happy with my dentist, he is good and all, but he has some very nice young female assistants who have no problems leaning in on you and telling you how much they are going to hurt you.

The big clue for me is the "ON" & "U.S." stamps, I would look at pictures of the 1903 Springfield or the 1917 Enfield rifles to see if things are similar, it does sound like a sporterized gun to me too.