[texnmidwest]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Fokker

JFK is still alive. He's living in an East Texas rest home disguised as a black man.

On my great grandmother's death bed she told the people present where Davy Crocket was buried in Tennessee. She maintained that he did not die at the Alamo but escaped. Now some historians are saying the same thing.

So, with this in mind...I just wanted to tell everyone present that Fokker is correct. For small fee I will tell anyone who pays the which rest home he is living in.

[billy]

Quote:       Originally Posted by texnmidwest

On my great grandmother's death bed she told the people present where Davy Crocket was buried in Tennessee. She maintained that he did not die at the Alamo but escaped. Now some historians are saying the same thing. So, with this in mind...I just wanted to tell everyone present that Fokker is correct. For small fee I will tell anyone who pays the which rest home he is living in.

when i was taking classes at the yonder n back school of trucking in Amarillo
my buddy earl told me Elvis was at the hootenanny rest home , funeral parlor and beautician college.
any truth to that?

[texnmidwest]

Quote:       Originally Posted by billy

when i was taking classes at the yonder n back school of trucking in Amarillo my buddy earl told me Elvis was at the hootenanny rest home , funeral parlor and beautician college. any truth to that?

No, there was no beauty school in that building, it was across the street.

Some people's kids....

[Cyrano]

The latest conspiracy theory I've heard with connection to the Kennedy assassination is that Oswald was in the pay of the Minh family that used to run South Vietnam. The hit was to get even for Kennedy supposedly having ordered the murder of "Big" Minh, the former head of the South Vietnamese government, who was ousted in an allegedly US-backed coup and executed by troops he thought were loyal to him.

Personally, I find it easier to believe that Lee Harvey Oswald was a lone nutjob on the order of the crackpot who killed all those student at Virginia Tech.

[SightNSqueeze]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Cyrano

No, AH, is is NOT obvious. In fact, it has been conclusively proven that it was a single shooter. The History Channel spent a great deal of money to recreate the heights , angles, wind speed, airflow across the car, and distances as shown in the Zapruder Film. A retired British sniper was retained to do the shooting. An incredibly expensive mannequin with a head that exactly duplicates human skin, bone and gray matter was put in the same position Kennedy was in when he was shot, again according to the Zapruder Film. Everything was as close to identical with November 22, 1963 as computer simulation information extracted from data from the film could recreate it. The test was run twice: once with a current, state-of-the-art sniper rifle; and again with the same model Carcano Oswald used, with the same model of scope and the same type of ammunition. The result was the same on both runs. The mannequin's head exploded and bits of 'skull' and 'gray matter' splattered and landed as they did according to the Zapruder Film and Secret Service reports. The History Channel further tested the common consipracy theories about the fictional "second shooter." To recap, one theory is that there was a shooter with a rifle on the grassy knoll before the overpass past Dealey Square. Another is that there was a shooter with a submachine gun in a particular storm drain. They persuaded the police to close the streets at the Texas Book Depository and simulated shooting at a near duplicate of Kennedy's Lincoln Continental. Neither 'second shooter' scenario matched up with the Zapruder Film or with the autopsy report. Further, there was no sign in 1963 that there was a second shooter at either location. As the Mythbusters would say, "This one is busted." There's no doubt in the minds of those who look rationally at the evidence. The bullets match the Carcan's rifling. A military FMJ round, unlike a softpoint or hollowpoint hunting round, will pass through soft tissues relatively intact, which explains the 'superbullet' that hit both Kennedy and Connally. The realtime tests produced the same results as occured on the day. I really don't think there can be any doubt any longer. Kennedy was assassinated by a single shooter who used a scoped Italian Carcano bolt action to perform the shooting.

Quote:       Originally Posted by Cyrano

The latest conspiracy theory I've heard with connection to the Kennedy assassination is that Oswald was in the pay of the Minh family that used to run South Vietnam. The hit was to get even for Kennedy supposedly having ordered the murder of "Big" Minh, the former head of the South Vietnamese government, who was ousted in an allegedly US-backed coup and executed by troops he thought were loyal to him. Personally, I find it easier to believe that Lee Harvey Oswald was a lone nutjob on the order of the crackpot who killed all those student at Virginia Tech.

You are right on both accounts Cyrano. Unfortunately, conspiracy theorists will always be around to come up with new theories as the old ones are disproven. The government is responsible for enough SNAFUs without people inventing new ones.

[nostraboys]

There were at least two gunman. One confessed from inside prison. He claimed he used a Remmington Fireball. This gun was used behind the picket fence.

http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/images/XP_100.jpg

This weapon did come out prior to the assasination.

Watch JFK's head, it is thrown back and to the left. I have been shooting for over 20 years and have never known a target to come back toward the bullet. The energy pushes it does not pull. Try and push someone. Does that person fall toward the push? NO! Absurd!


JFK MURDER SOLVED

[jimkim]

I always wondered how part of his brain landed on the trunk-lid if he was shot from behind.

[nostraboys]

So-called experts back then said the sheer force of the bullet pulled his head back toward the bullet. Common sense will tell you that is absurd.

[SwedeSteve]

While I can't say how many shooters there might have been. I tend to trust the laws of physics.

[Lex1785]

I'm of the notion after watching the video, and reading a few things here and there, and having seen double impacts from different directions on an fleshy object.

That there was two shooters. On to the rear and left side and one to the front and right side. That the first round was fired from the rear left and entered the back of JFK's throat and exited downward into the car, the second shot was fired at the rear of his skull, at close to the same time as the first round from the front right shooter entered the right temple area, thus causing the extreme amount of damage done.

Though feasible to consider a single shooter could have done the firing as well. The physics as many have pointed out don't really lie, the head snaps back and to the left, If the first shooter fired from the rear causing a forward motion and the second round impacted and over road that forward motion it would cause a hard thrust to the left rear. Its possible.

Over all, if it was more then one shooter, I am inclined to think with some others that the second shooter was a redundancy fail safe. In case the first shooter missed their intended target.

Just my humble opinion on the matter.

[Sandy Pockets]

Quote:       Originally Posted by nostraboys

So-called experts back then said the sheer force of the bullet pulled his head back toward the bullet. Common sense will tell you that is absurd.

I can't watch the video because Youtube is blocked here at work and I don't have a computer at home. But you said exactly what I've been thinking all along. You don't get hit from the behind and go backwards. They use the excuse that he was wearing a back brace and that made him go backwards. I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed but it doesn't seem right to get hit from behind and do what he did.

[larmus]

[larmus]

I am more worried about what our govtment is doing now, than what they did back then... The right here and now has a direct affect on me, not whether he was shot twice or once or a dozen times... it sad though, it really is...

[billy]

Quote:       Originally Posted by billy

when i was taking classes at the yonder n back school of trucking in Amarillo my buddy earl told me Elvis was at the hootenanny rest home , funeral parlor and beautician college. any truth to that?

Quote:       Originally Posted by texnmidwest

No, there was no beauty school in that building, it was across the street. Some people's kids....

THAT is how the CIA distorts the truth!
1st they change one little thing.
then another.
and it blows all credibilty of the source right out of the water which blinds us to the truth about where elvis and jfk are right now.
RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSES!

[mdj696]

U saw one study many years ago pointing to the driver of the limo (CIA) pointing rearward like pointing with object in his hand. For me, I'm convinced the second round was from a 1911 at close range. Bullet striking right front of forehead causing head to bob rearward and to Kennedys left towards Jackie. a 45 to the head at close range will cause the effects. Saw an ARVN pop a VC in the head at close range, with a Thompson,did the same thing.

[deadzero]

Quote:       Originally Posted by nostraboys

There were at least two gunman. One confessed from inside prison. He claimed he used a Remmington Fireball. This gun was used behind the picket fence. http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/images/XP_100.jpg This weapon did come out prior to the assasination. Watch JFK's head, it is thrown back and to the left. I have been shooting for over 20 years and have never known a target to come back toward the bullet. The energy pushes it does not pull. Try and push someone. Does that person fall toward the push? NO! Absurd! JFK MURDER SOLVED

Quote:       Originally Posted by jimkim

I always wondered how part of his brain landed on the trunk-lid if he was shot from behind.

I was wondering how long it would be until someone brought that up. I was going to let this drag on until tomorrow before mentioning that. Oswald shot Kennedy, but Oswald did not pull off the final head shot. that round came from a forward position.

[hamburgerhelper]

physics aside, are you going to trust a single assassin to do a hit of such magnitude?

[Windwalker]

Looks to me like the enhanced video makes a liar out of the Warren Commission Report. Also, President Kennedy's Speech at Columbia University on Nov.12, 1963, and President Kennedy's Executive Order 11110 give more possible reasons for the assignation and I doubt that the people ordering it would have entrusted it to only one shooter.

[Rave]

Actually,it was a bomb in his punkin head!

[ironhead7544]

A lot of the pieces dont fit. There were other people filming that day that had their cameras taken. What happened to the films? It was also very convenient that the motorcade just happened to be sidetracked to allow a simple shot from a building that a radical just happened to work at. I would like to know the odds on that. Seriously, If you were going to do this type of thing wouldnt you do it from somewhere that no one knew who you were? Some where down the street maybe? Kinda looks like someone else picked the shot. To answer the original question: it does look like a hit from the back.