Old 10-11-2009, 12:30 AM   #1
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Lightbulb Does the typical SKS overheat much faster than an "AK"?

Have often read that the "AK clone" mechanisms are more rugged etc, but the barrel and gas tubes look identical.

Boys and girls, let's compare/ contrast these semi-auto rifles-in the original configuration-using the same Russian Wolf etc ammo. This one-page project is due before (just kidding).

What are the results if shooting ten rounds per minute, or ten every five minutes-would it make any difference how many rounds are tested per time span, if both types are used under the same clean conditions?
Whichever loses, would this always lead to a quicker failure?
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Old 10-11-2009, 12:53 AM   #2
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At ten rounds per minute or at a longer span, both rifles should continue to function for thousands of rounds. Heat would not be a breakdown factor at that rate. Basically both rifles could handle all the ammo a soldier would normally carry and fire them all off without problem.
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Old 10-11-2009, 04:45 AM   #3
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Ditto.. You would have to shoot as fast as you could to do that kind of test. My buddy has a Saiga "AK" maybe we could ty it. Just send me the case of ammo and I will send you the test results. :-)
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Old 10-11-2009, 07:01 AM   #4
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There's a video floating around on YouTube where a guy takes an AK and keeps firing fast as he can, swapping full thirty round mags and keeps on firing. Took him quite a few mags before the upper handguard finally begins smoking........

No way you could do that with an SKS........
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Old 10-11-2009, 12:39 PM   #6
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Thoughs videos did show me something... the AK does have a rate of fire that is faster then the SKS, mainly because it was designed for a full-auto application were as the SKS was designed as a semi-auto and for better accuracy on the battle field. the one guys AK caught on fire as a result of the wood furnature in a full-auto mode and with a 75 or 100rnd drum so what good is that to have so much fire power but your gun catches fire or if you have poly furniture, it starts to melt... to me it would be nice to have an AK for that covering fire support roll and then have an SKS for those more accurate shots... sometimes slower does win the race...
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Old 10-11-2009, 02:09 PM   #7
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You would not last in combat long if you shot like that.
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Old 10-11-2009, 02:34 PM   #8
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WOW!! those were truly some amazing tests.
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Old 10-11-2009, 04:05 PM   #9
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Hey, I wanna shoot the heck out of my rifle so I can look like a fool on youtube...
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Old 10-11-2009, 05:03 PM   #10
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lol! kids these days don't sem to care how stupid they look as long as they get a bunch of people to watch them do it!
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Old 10-11-2009, 06:43 PM   #11
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Cool

Ive had an AK smoking after about a hundred rounds. Cosmo was cooking out of it. Of course it was brand new out of the box and I had neglected to clean it.
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Old 10-12-2009, 05:59 PM   #12
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entertaining videos, I like my guns not chared, thank you...
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:01 PM   #13
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but boys and girls did you learn any thing.
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:45 AM   #14
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Would not be a fair test for me. My Saiga AK shoots .223.
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:05 PM   #15
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Unless you were in a real battle, with your position being tasked as "suppressive fire" I doubt you would ever fire that many rounds that fast out of necessity. The only scenario I can think of other than that would be trying to mow down lots of unarmed zombies. Any opposing force that was armed would shoot you before you had a chance to fire that many rounds.

For those of you who have been complaining about ammo scarcity and price, I submit these videos are a good clue as to why. LOL
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:32 PM   #16
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Have an SKS and AN mak90-AK, Have 20 and 30 round magazines in both of them and they both heat up pretty good after about 100 rounds.I know the Mak Has a thicker barrel then most Russian AK,S (1.5 MM compared to 1.0 for the Russian ones) but ya cant tell the differance. grab that barrel and your gonna get burned.
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Old 10-13-2009, 05:39 PM   #17
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A pointless waste of ammo and probably very damaging to the barrel.
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:35 PM   #18
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Quote:       Originally Posted by Dragunov View Post
A pointless waste of ammo and probably very damaging to the barrel.
Yes I'm sure the barrel and many other parts are junk Dragunov,i could never do that to any gun!
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:45 PM   #19
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At my club's last Junkyard Shoot, I put upwards of 300 rounds through my SKS in about an hour. The gas piston was black as coal when I broke her down to clean her, but I experienced no faiures to fire, no failures to eject and no failures to load - exactly what I expect of a ComBloc weapon; absolute reliability. The handguard was too hot to touch, but not to the burst-into-flames levels attributed to full-auto AKs. Even with Gunzilla, cleaning her up took awhile. But she cleaned up to normal and I've had no malfunctions since that session. When you have a good design, it takes a lot to screw it up. Simonov's little rifle is a good design.
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