Old 10-12-2009, 10:28 AM   #1
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Monday the 12th....California ammo sales laws

Just got the information attached that the "Governator" of Moskowfornia rolled over on the AB 962 placing restrictions on ammo sales here...no more internet sales or mail order...got to be face to face with fingerprinting and record keeping on all ammo sales...Statewide...Unfortunatly what starts in California often spreads across the US....be afraid....very afraid. Effective date is Feb. 2011....court challenges very probable.


Before the midnight deadline Governor Schwarzenegger acted on 685 bills that were on his desk. He signed 456, and vetoed 229.
One of the bills that he signed was Assembly Bill 962. It would require handgun ammunition to be kept behind the counter where customers cannot access it without assistance. It would also require gun shop owners to thumbprint people who buy handgun ammunition, as well as record their identification and provide that information to police.
The Governor released a statement explaining why he signed this bill.
"To the Members of the California State Assembly: I am signing Assembly Bill 962.
This measure would require vendors of handgun ammunition to keep a log of information on handgun ammunition sales, store ammunition in a safe and secure manner, and require the face to-
face transfer of ammunition sales.

Although I have previously vetoed legislation similar to this measure, local governments have demonstrated that requiring ammunition vendors to keep records on ammunition sales improves public safety. These records have allowed law enforcement to arrest and prosecute persons who have no business possessing firearms and ammunition: gang members, violent parolees, second and third strikers, and even people previously serving time in state prison for murder.
Utilized properly, this type of information is invaluable for keeping communities safe and preventing dangerous felons from committing crimes with firearms.
Moreover, this type of record keeping is no more intrusive for law abiding citizens than similar laws governing pawnshops or the sale of cold medicine. Unfortunately, even the most successful
local program is flawed; without a statewide law, felons can easily skirt the record keeping requirements of one city by visiting another. Assembly Bill 962 will fix this problem by
mandating that all ammunition vendors in the state keep records on ammunition sales.

As Governor, I have sought the appropriate balance between public safety and the right to keep and bear arms. I have signed important public safety measures to regulate the sale and transfer of .50 caliber rifles, instituted the California Firearms License Check program, and promoted the use of microstamping technology in handguns. I have also vetoed many pieces of legislation that sought to place unreasonable restrictions and burdens on firearms dealers and ammunition vendors.
Assembly Bill 962 reasonably regulates access to ammunition and improves public safety without placing undue burdens on consumers. For these reasons, I am pleased to sign this bill."

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Old 10-12-2009, 04:39 PM   #2
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Hope the people of California make this his last term as Governator since he saw fit to sign these bills. You California folks don't seem to have very many rights as it is. Can you really afford to lose any more of them?
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Old 10-12-2009, 05:26 PM   #3
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Hope the people of California make this his last term as Governator since he saw fit to sign these bills. You California folks don't seem to have very many rights as it is. Can you really afford to lose any more of them?
We hear he may run for Senator next cycle and try for Dianne Feinstein's seat...we may be able to "share him" with the whole US...he's a jerk.
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Old 10-12-2009, 06:15 PM   #4
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well at least you have till 2011,I say stack it high and stack it deep while you can. Y'all don't have a law agents that yet do you.
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Old 10-12-2009, 06:35 PM   #5
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Just got the information attached that the "Governator" of Moskowfornia rolled over on the AB 962 placing restrictions on ammo sales here...no more internet sales or mail order...got to be face to face with fingerprinting and record keeping on all ammo sales...Statewide...Unfortunatly what starts in California often spreads across the US....be afraid....very afraid. Effective date is Feb. 2011....court challenges very probable.


Before the midnight deadline Governor Schwarzenegger acted on 685 bills that were on his desk. He signed 456, and vetoed 229.
One of the bills that he signed was Assembly Bill 962. It would require handgun ammunition to be kept behind the counter where customers cannot access it without assistance. It would also require gun shop owners to thumbprint people who buy handgun ammunition, as well as record their identification and provide that information to police.
The Governor released a statement explaining why he signed this bill.
"To the Members of the California State Assembly: I am signing Assembly Bill 962.
This measure would require vendors of handgun ammunition to keep a log of information on handgun ammunition sales, store ammunition in a safe and secure manner, and require the face to-
face transfer of ammunition sales.

Although I have previously vetoed legislation similar to this measure, local governments have demonstrated that requiring ammunition vendors to keep records on ammunition sales improves public safety. These records have allowed law enforcement to arrest and prosecute persons who have no business possessing firearms and ammunition: gang members, violent parolees, second and third strikers, and even people previously serving time in state prison for murder.
Utilized properly, this type of information is invaluable for keeping communities safe and preventing dangerous felons from committing crimes with firearms.
Moreover, this type of record keeping is no more intrusive for law abiding citizens than similar laws governing pawnshops or the sale of cold medicine. Unfortunately, even the most successful
local program is flawed; without a statewide law, felons can easily skirt the record keeping requirements of one city by visiting another. Assembly Bill 962 will fix this problem by
mandating that all ammunition vendors in the state keep records on ammunition sales.

As Governor, I have sought the appropriate balance between public safety and the right to keep and bear arms. I have signed important public safety measures to regulate the sale and transfer of .50 caliber rifles, instituted the California Firearms License Check program, and promoted the use of microstamping technology in handguns. I have also vetoed many pieces of legislation that sought to place unreasonable restrictions and burdens on firearms dealers and ammunition vendors.
Assembly Bill 962 reasonably regulates access to ammunition and improves public safety without placing undue burdens on consumers. For these reasons, I am pleased to sign this bill."

so, they got to step one. the anti's out there must be throwing one heck of a party about now, and planning their next move.

next they will target the people making their own.

tighten your seatbelts, heavy turbulance ahead.......
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Old 10-13-2009, 08:09 PM   #6
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You forgot to mention we can only buy 50 rounds a month.
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Old 10-13-2009, 09:01 PM   #7
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i think he needs to be sent back to Germany with the rest of the Nazis!?
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:53 PM   #8
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You forgot to mention we can only buy 50 rounds a month.
Please read the post from Sacramento...the 50 round per month was not a part of this bill...it's popped up several times but so far has not made it to the floor...A ton of really strong oppositon on that one.
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Old 10-14-2009, 07:28 PM   #9
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Lets see, what family did he marry into...?
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Old 10-18-2009, 01:56 PM   #10
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I hope he suffers a real bad rash the rest of his days!!!!!
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Old 11-10-2009, 10:08 PM   #11
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We hear he may run for Senator next cycle and try for Dianne Feinstein's seat...we may be able to "share him" with the whole US...he's a jerk.

I think he would be better than Feinstein, but not by much. A lesser of two evils.
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Old 11-15-2009, 03:54 PM   #12
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I would start reloading and lay in vast supplies before they get around to restricting THAT!
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Old 11-21-2009, 01:52 PM   #13
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i think he needs to be sent back to Germany with the rest of the Nazis!?
First of all your Governator is NOT German - he's Austrian. BTW So was Hitler.
Second, there aren't as many nazis in Germany as you think.
Third, there are plenty of states that you can move too. ;-)
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Old 11-23-2009, 01:31 AM   #14
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First of all your Governator is NOT German - he's Austrian. BTW So was Hitler.
Second, there aren't as many nazis in Germany as you think.
Third, there are plenty of states that you can move too. ;-)
1)the goveror of ohio is NOT from austria.
2)right. there's probably alot more in south america.
3) what state are you in? i wanna check off the ones to avoid.
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