Old 10-13-2009, 06:00 AM   #1
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S&W 586 parts in a 686

From what I read, the 586 and 686 S&W revolver is the exact same gun, except one is in blued steel and the other is in silver stainless. Now, the 586 was discontinued, but you can still buy parts for it. I think it would be pretty cool to have a black cylinder (from the 586) in my 686.

Is there any reason this wouldn't work?
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:25 AM   #2
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Very doable. I have a couple of "pinto's". Watch gunbroker for a parts gun or cylinder. The cylinder well need to be fitted to your revolver.
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:33 AM   #3
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The cylinder well need to be fitted to your revolver.
What does that mean exactly?
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:36 AM   #4
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Watch gunbroker for a parts gun or cylinder.
Like this one?

Smith Wesson S&W L Frame 586 .357 Cylinder 357 : Barrels at GunBroker.com

Haha, what luck.

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Old 10-14-2009, 12:35 AM   #5
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Each cylinder is hand fitted to the gun. The yoke and yoke barrel have to be aligned with that cylinder. With a different extractor, the timing might be different. If you swap out the cylinder guts to the new one, you would avoid that. To unscrew the ejector rod, the threads are opposite of normal. Lefty loosey in now lefty tighty. Be sure to have two empty cases in the cylinder when you unscrew the ejector rod. You probably will have to put the rod in a padded vice. Align the yoke/yoke barrel with the cylinder and make sure you have proper gap in the front and back of the cylinder. Also, the yoke barrel might have to be filed or stretched, depending on how much end shake or not enough front gap there is. It can be done. I think it would have a nice two tone effect. Cylinders are not drop in parts for Smith and Wesson. I wish they were.
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Smith&Wesson "Mutt" guns are not all that rare, They came out with a new one every week for a while.
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Old 10-15-2009, 03:39 AM   #7
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Cylinders are not drop in parts for Smith and Wesson. I wish they were.
But they are the same model, just a different metal. Or is every single individual gun different?
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:43 AM   #8
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But they are the same model, just a different metal. Or is every single individual gun different?
If you change cylinders you need to verify a few clearances. barrel gap, end clearance, head space and timing. Everything well be very close, you may get a drop in fit or you may need to do some minor fitting. You are working with .001 tolerances.

I recommend you pick up a copy of the Jerry Kuhnhausen book "The S&W Revolver a shop manual" This well tell you how to fit the cylinder. If you want to do your own work on firearms then a library of J Kuhnhausen books are a necessity.





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Smith&Wesson "Mutt" guns are not all that rare, They came out with a new one every week for a while.
What model are those? I know of very few S&W factory Pinto models.
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Old 10-15-2009, 02:35 PM   #9
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Well I won the auction. $95 in the end, but that's really not too bad for a discontinued factory new part. I think I'll take it to a gunsmith to get it fitted as I don't even have a vise to remove the current cylinder, heh.
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Well I won the auction. $95 in the end, but that's really not too bad for a discontinued factory new part. I think I'll take it to a gunsmith to get it fitted as I don't even have a vise to remove the current cylinder, heh.
Good decision on your part. Timing a cylinder is a fairly advanced gunsmithing operation. It's not difficult if you have done it but not for the first timer.

You well have a nice looking revolver when done.
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Old 10-16-2009, 09:40 AM   #11
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I would suggest you contact S&W and see if they would do it my buddy sent his j frame 38 in and they put in a new cylinder and hand and other parts so it was timed did not cost too bad I think it was 180 with the cost of the cylinder too.
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