My guess is theres probably some issues with licensing and patents due to the fact that it looks ALOT like the Thompson. I mean the 995 and 4095 were ok I guess but being that the 4595 is well...a .45 I'm sure theres some licensing problems or something along those lines thats holding them up.
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My guess is theres probably some issues with licensing and patents due to the fact that it looks ALOT like the Thompson. I mean the 995 and 4095 were ok I guess but being that the 4595 is well...a .45 I'm sure theres some licensing problems or something along those lines thats holding them up.
Oh come on, it looks NOTHING like a Thompson! Not even close. Jeez.
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Well you got a point. Now that I think about it, its similar at best. I think they should have made it with a stick/box mag instead of that mini-mag in the handle like a pistol...
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The only similarity between the two is the caliber. But I agree about the magazine's design and capacity. Even 1911 magazines would have been nice.
But, it's a moot point, since we'll never see the damn things on the shelves anyway. I have a 995, a 4095, a Winchester .44 mag Trapper carbine, and now an M1 Carbine and an Enfield Jungle Carbine, so I don't even want a 4595 anymore. So there, High-Point!
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But, it's a moot point, since we'll never see the damn things on the shelves anyway. I have a 995, a 4095, a Winchester .44 mag Trapper carbine, and now an M1 Carbine and an Enfield Jungle Carbine, so I don't even want a 4595 anymore. So there, High-Point!
LIES!!
I stopped holding my breath for a .45 ACP carbine from Hi-Point. I think a small operation like themselves simply has enough of a time staying alive as a gun manufacturer and simply meeting current demands; creating prototypes, testing and increasing manufacturing facilities takes a lot of time and money.
I still think Kel-Tec will retire their Sub-2000 rifle in favor of a pistol caliber SU series gun. Lets hope they retain the non-pistol grip so I can get one!
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The only similarity between the two is the caliber. But I agree about the magazine's design and capacity. Even 1911 magazines would have been nice.
But, it's a moot point, since we'll never see the damn things on the shelves anyway. I have a 995, a 4095, a Winchester .44 mag Trapper carbine, and now an M1 Carbine and an Enfield Jungle Carbine, so I don't even want a 4595 anymore. So there, High-Point!
I want a 995 but....I kinda want a bigger mag...how much does the mag carry for the 995?
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I stopped holding my breath for a .45 ACP carbine from Hi-Point. I think a small operation like themselves simply has enough of a time staying alive as a gun manufacturer and simply meeting current demands; creating prototypes, testing and increasing manufacturing facilities takes a lot of time and money.
Oh, I woudn't say they're just "staying alive." Demand for the Model 995 and Model 4095 is so high they can't keep up with the demand. Ditto their pistols. They're ugly as sin but they are reliable as hell and cheap as chips, so they keep on moving right off the shelf too.
As a matter of fact, when I emailed Hi-Point ans asked them when they'd be starting production on the 4595, their response was, "When things slow down enough that we can schedule the machine time to make them!" They don't have quite enough money to put on a second shift or to set up a new production line.
As a matter of fact, if I were an investor looking for someplace in invest money, I'd put it into Hi-Point and Henry. There's a definite market for high quality, inexpensive guns in this country and both companies have products that fit nicely into that niche.
I read on the other (semi-official) Hi-Point forums that they are ramping up production on the 4095TS. (Tactical Stock) They are making the 995TS now and supposedly the 4595 will follow the 4095. Not holding my breath.
The only similarity between the two is the caliber. But I agree about the magazine's design and capacity. Even 1911 magazines would have been nice.
But, it's a moot point, since we'll never see the damn things on the shelves anyway. I have a 995, a 4095, a Winchester .44 mag Trapper carbine, and now an M1 Carbine and an Enfield Jungle Carbine, so I don't even want a 4595 anymore. So there, High-Point!
I bet as soon as it does come out you will be the first in line to get one.
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I just looked at the Hi-point website and the 4595 is on their carbine section. The date they have for expected delivery is May 2010. I was just on that site a couple of days ago and there was nothing saying that at that time. I almost bought a 995ts this week, but I may hold out until May and see whats up. Nah, I will probably have to get 995 ts just to tide things over. Besides I just bought a C-9 last week, so it will need a companion.
I can't see getting a 45 ACP anything at this time. .45 ACP is scarcer than hen's teeth around here. At least you can USUALLY get 9 mm and MOst of the time 40 S&W these days.
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I can't see getting a 45 ACP anything at this time. .45 ACP is scarcer than hen's teeth around here. At least you can USUALLY get 9 mm and MOst of the time 40 S&W these days.
Hmm... Here 45acp, 9mm, and 40 s&w is quite plentiful. But ask for 380, and you'll just get laughed at. Almost bought a 380 hi point few weeks ago until I found out there was no ammo avaliable.