Our National Survival

[SightNSqueeze]

Most of you here know me from what I write. I am not one to just cut and paste an article and pass it on. In fact, my wife routinely accuses “me” of being my favorite author. There may be some truth to that, but former Governor Dick Lamm has just upstaged me on the topic of immigration. Before people start howling, I am by no means a supporter of Dick Lamm, nor would I agree with his views of death and dying, economic development, abortion, and a number of other issues. However, I will concede to any speaker when he is right, and I think he is right concerning the issue of immigration. Below is Governor Lamm’s assessment of a danger that I, the son and grandson of immigrants, see happening to our great country. I have long agreed with this assessment and even applied it to historical context.

Quote from Governor Dick Lamm: American Suicide.

We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference inWashington, DC, filled to capacity by many of America’s finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, 'Mexifornia,' explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the land. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America.
The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, 'If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'an autopsy of history’ would show that all great nations commit suicide.''

'Here is how they do it,' Lamm said:
'First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: 'The histories of bilingual and bicultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.' Canada, Belgium , Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, Corsicans and Muslims.'

Lamm went on:
'Second, to destroy America, invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal; that there are no cultural differences. Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

'Third, we could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec ' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently, 'The apparent success of our own multi-ethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.' Lamm said, 'I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities.'

'Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school.'

'My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority.'

'My sixth plan for America’s downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precept. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All of Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. 'E. Pluribus Unum' -- From many, one. In that historical l reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we will 'Balkanize' America as surely as Kosovo.'

Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits. Make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-cultism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them.'

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, 'Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book 'Mexifornia.' His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book.'

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America. Take note of California and other states. To date, ten million illegal aliens, and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book '1984.' In that story, three slogans are engendered in the Ministry of Truth building: 'War is peace,' 'Freedom is slavery,' and 'Ignorance is strength.'

Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.


Again, I know what it is like to be multicultural. Growing up, I knew how to turn it on and off depending on the situation and who was in the room. One thing never changed; and that was my nationality. I always knew that I was an American and that knowing another culture, whole or in part was a social windfall to being an American, not the other way around. That’s the way it was throughout American history. I don’t know when the change occurred. Perhaps after World War II when air travel and telephone communications became commonplace and immigration to a strange land stopped being a “forever and wondrous” change in one’s life. Perhaps too, the unwillingness to preserve our borders due to the unintended consequences of cheap labor, and just as severe, our unwillingness to present a united front to other nations, in spite of our multicultural demographics. Something has to happen to stop the path we are on or we will surely go the way of the Greeks, the Romans, and the great empires of Europe. Even a former Democrat governor sees the severity in this. Hopefully, the sense of urgency will spread within that party before it is too late.

[Rave]

A great understatement would be call that a sign o' the times.

[nathangdad]

so many of us think and feel.

In Texas more and more signs for just about everything are in both English and Spanish. I feel a real trend is to have people simply not feel a need to learn English. Radio stations now come in three groups - hispanic speaking, black audience, and white audience.

I would say Texas is now a state of three cultures who are separating - white, hispanic, and black. The larger the city the more the grouping in an almost tribal cultural sense.

[Deersniper]

This fellow Texan agrees. It's all moving westward in our town. Towards us. That's why the traitors left the gate open for the raiders. Socialism. The coup by sheer numbers of non- American amoral people.

[SightNSqueeze]

I have to wonder why every established political group is so dead set against doing anything about illegal immigration; especially with more and more Americans speaking out against it. When do we say, "Enough, we have to preserve our national identity and the sanctity of our national borders." Every country in the world has that mindset except us. Did anybody here ever think that illegal aliens are now influencing elections, influencing the passage of laws, and even intimidating the previous demographic dynamic into compliance? We're not talking about "legal" aliens; we're talking about "illegal" aliens backed and organized by legal agencies, administrative agencies within our own government, and influential elements of our society. Where did all of that come from? What is the payoff?

[sea_chicken1]

This country's best days are behind us and the political elite don't give a fuck all they want is to put more government control in our lives weather we want it or not and tax us for it. Taking down the middle class and eventually creating one working poor class. If you actually think the stimulus, cap and trade and the healthcare bills are to help people with all that has happened in recent years you are insane. We cant even vote these guys out because we never have a decent choice of candidate to choose from, it's always who is gonna screw up the country less than the other guy rather than who will actually do their job.

[SightNSqueeze]

Originally Posted by sea_chicken1

We cant even vote these guys out because we never have a decent choice of candidate to choose from, it's always who is gonna screw up the country less than the other guy rather than who will actually do their job.

Yeah, the lesser of two evils or two separate wings on the same raptor. We really do need a viable Constitutional party. The problem is that a truly constitutionally minded political party tends to weaken the “lesser” of the two evils we are contending with now.

[nathangdad]

Thanks for the fellow Texan agreement.

[Windwalker]

Yes, and neither of our two major parties want to change the program, just who runs it. I would like to see all political parties disbanded, and each candidate run on their own merits. The Government would have to place a cap on campaign spending, the same for each candidate, and no political advertising could be placed except by the candidate himself. Each candidate should sign a pledge that he/she recognizes the Constitution and Bill of Rights as written and understood by our Founding Fathers as the governing documents of the United States and will actively support them first and foremost. If they refuse to sign the pledge, don't vote for them. Knowing what the candidate believes might let us elect some Statesmen who love this Country rather than professional politicians.

[scienceman]

Originally Posted by nathangdad

Thanks for the fellow Texan agreement.

You can add the agreement of one more Texan.

[nathangdad]

Thanks also for a fellow Texan agreement.

The agreements help non-Texans to believe what is going on here.
I know it is hard for some people to believe what Texas is becoming.

[Cyrano]

It's not just Texans who feel that way. I've been trying to warn people about these problems for decades, but apart from a few friends at the gun club, no one listens.

My wife thinks I'm a crank on the subject.

My mother-in-law thinks I'm an idiot because I see a threat she does not.

My medievalist friends mostly think I'm creating a threat out of whole cloth. the fact I can cite historical precedents cuts no ice with them.

I'm definitely shouting in the wilderness against the wind.

People don't want to hear the facts, or the truth. We can stop this butt-cold, but it requires a ruthlessness that many would call fascist.

First, start by putting armed guards, minefields, and whatnot along our borders, especially the southern border with Mexico. Arm the guards, and tell them there is no bag limit on wetbacks. Put up Predator drones with Hellfire missiles to deal with anyone trying to illegally cross the border in a vehicle. After the first few incidents with the border guards, and Washington telling Mexico City to bugger off - it's our border and we'll patrol it howsoever we please - the illegals will either try to find some other route in or they'll give it up as not being worth their lives.

Second, catch every illegal and send them back where they came from. Show them a movie of the border guards at work, including the dead bodies. Should be self-explanatory.

Third, simplify the immigration system for the people with brain power. Offer them incentives to come here, assimilate and take American citizenship. We don't need stoop labor. We do need people who know how to THINK.

Fourth, pass either a law or preferably a Constitutional Amendment declaring that Standard American English as defined by Webster's Dictionary is the sole official language of the United States. Revoke Slick Willy's executive order that requires government documents be made available in every language on earth. Make the only language used in government English. This will compel immigrants who don't already speak English to learn the language in order to deal with all government agencies, including most particularly the schools. I don't give a damn what people speak at home, up to and including Esperanto and Klingonese; but when they are in public dealing with business or government, they damned well speak ENGLISH or don't get served.

Fifth, do away with what I call "hyphen Americans." No more of this African-American, Hispanic-American, Chinese-American, Irish-American, German-American, etc. nonsense! You're either an American or you aren't! I don't care where your ancestors came from. Be an AMERICAN, loyal to the Constitution, the flag and our ideals. I don't particularly care is you want to have a parade and celebrate Columbus Day, or St. Patrick's Day, or Caribbean Pride Day, or the Feast of Saint Anthony, or Chinese New Year, or the Feast of Saint Michael, or Guy Fawkes Day, or anything like that. Just celebrate it as a remembrance of the old country, not as a declaration of allegiance to the old country. Take a cue from the Americans of Irish extraction, who like to say that "Everyone is Irish on St. Patrick's Day!" Eat the traditional foods; drink the traditional drinks; dance the traditional dances; barf the traditional puke into the traditional toilet; whatever. But do it in honor of where you came from, NOT as who you are! We're all Americans. No one should get any special breaks because of where their ancestors came from or what their status was when they got here. If you want to be a hyphen American because the hyphen was so wonderful, go back to the hyphen and stay there. Don't try to inflict its customs and language on the United States!

Sixth, sharply remind the UN that the United States of America has the longest continuously-operating system of government on Earth. Don't try to dictate to us. Make it clear to that chattering society on the East River in New York City that they are permitted in the United States on sufferance. If necessary, hold a nonbinding referendum on whether the United States should remain a member of the UN. I think the bureaucrats in the debating club would be astonished at the percentage of Americans who want the US out of the UN, and the UN out of the United States.

Finally, change the requirements for military service so that anyone at any age from 17 on up can serve, regardless of any physical disabilities, if they want to and can take the discipline. Yes, there are plenty of combat jobs that handicapped people or old fuds should not serve in. On the other hand, you don't need two working legs to run a computer, and you don't have to be able to run 100 meters in 12 seconds to work on engines or run a forklift in a warehouse. As Heinlein observed in Starship Troopers, fighting spirit is rare. It should not be wasted. Better an empty slot on your flank than filling that slot with someone who does not want to be there.

Anyone who serves a four year hitch, even if an immigrant, gets full citizenship. They'll have earned it. That would be one way for the non-academically gifted to get into the country.

Radical ideas? Sure. Workable ideas? Only if we have the guts to elect a government with the backbone to make them happen.

Do we Americans have that kind of guts?

You tell me.

[SwedeSteve]

"That's why the traitors left the gate open for the raiders. Socialism. The coup by sheer numbers of non- American amoral people."

Amoral ?? Really ??

"I have to wonder why every established political group is so dead set against doing anything about illegal immigration; especially with more and more Americans speaking out against it. When do we say, "Enough, we have to preserve our national identity and the sanctity of our national borders." Every country in the world has that mindset except us."

You've been voting in Republicans and Democrats for 16+ years who would not touch this career-ending topic. You yourself did absolutely NOTHING to abate it, that would be my guess !!

"We cant even vote these guys out because we never have a decent choice of candidate to choose from, it's always who is gonna screw up the country less than the other guy rather than who will actually do their job."

On whose political action group did you work on to change all this ??

"The problem is that a truly constitutionally minded political party tends to weaken the “lesser” of the two evils we are contending with now."


Only if you sit back and complain !! Have you taken ANY actionable stance to build a 3rd, 4th, or 5th competitive political party ??

"Each candidate should sign a pledge that he/she recognizes the Constitution and Bill of Rights as written and understood by our Founding Fathers as the governing documents of the United States and will actively support them first and foremost. If they refuse to sign the pledge, don't vote for them. Knowing what the candidate believes might let us elect some Statesmen who love this Country rather than professional politicians."


This is as it was written, and has been bastardized ever since !! Your offer of sound judgement and change is ????????




"Arm the guards, and tell them there is no bag limit on wetbacks."

"Wetbacks" really !! And not the Canadians, not the Cubans, not the Russians, not the Somoans, not the Italians ?? Damn. so everyone who didn't finish the Citizenship Class, like your family, are subject to deportation ??

"Second, catch every illegal and send them back where they came from. Show them a movie of the border guards at work, including the dead bodies. Should be self-explanatory."

I am assuming this includes your granparents and mine ??

Cyr- Either you've been HEAVILY into the scotch, or you have become totally isolated from the mainstream as to be scary !! We are the same age, and I only hope that you have the badges of courage to support your ill-informed ideals !!

[SightNSqueeze]

Originally Posted by Cyrano

Fifth, do away with what I call "hyphen Americans." No more of this African-American, Hispanic-American, Chinese-American, Irish-American, German-American, etc. nonsense! You're either an American or you aren't! I don't care where your ancestors came from. Be an AMERICAN, loyal to the Constitution, the flag and our ideals. I don't particularly care is you want to have a parade and celebrate Columbus Day, or St. Patrick's Day, or Caribbean Pride Day, or the Feast of Saint Anthony, or Chinese New Year, or the Feast of Saint Michael, or Guy Fawkes Day, or anything like that. Just celebrate it as a remembrance of the old country, not as a declaration of allegiance to the old country. Take a cue from the Americans of Irish extraction, who like to say that "Everyone is Irish on St. Patrick's Day!" Eat the traditional foods; drink the traditional drinks; dance the traditional dances; barf the traditional puke into the traditional toilet; whatever. But do it in honor of where you came from, NOT as who you are! We're all Americans. No one should get any special breaks because of where their ancestors came from or what their status was when they got here. If you want to be a hyphen American because the hyphen was so wonderful, go back to the hyphen and stay there. Don't try to inflict its customs and language on the United States!


Finally, change the requirements for military service so that anyone at any age from 17 on up can serve, regardless of any physical disabilities, if they want to and can take the discipline. Yes, there are plenty of combat jobs that handicapped people or old fuds should not serve in. On the other hand, you don't need two working legs to run a computer, and you don't have to be able to run 100 meters in 12 seconds to work on engines or run a forklift in a warehouse. As Heinlein observed in Starship Troopers, fighting spirit is rare. It should not be wasted. Better an empty slot on your flank than filling that slot with someone who does not want to be there.

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Excellent post Cyrano. All of your ideas are sound. The two that I carried above are near and dear to me. No more "hyphen Americans" and citizenship for immigrants who answer the call to serve in the Armed Forces. My immigrant grandfathers on both sides of the family and two great uncles gave up successful businesses to join the Army and fight in France during World War I. Aside from being adventuresome, they felt it was their duty to return something to the country that was so good to them. They never expected citizenship papers when they returned, but they were awarded them along with their Honorable Discharges for faithful service to the United States in time of war. My maternal grandfather continued to serve in the National Guard and the U.S. Treasury Department after the Great War and into World War II. He loved this country with a passion you don’t see much of any more.

[SightNSqueeze]

SwedeSteve, the very reason we are saddled with this 52% globalist-socialist administration is because people really “did” go out and try to do something by voting for alternative candidates. The end result was a split ticket which guaranteed the greater of two evils. Like you, a lot of us see the problem with no solution other than a windfall for the Clintons (41%) and the Obamas out there. What do you suggest?

[scienceman]

Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

"That's why the traitors left the gate open for the raiders. Socialism. The coup by sheer numbers of non- American amoral people."

Amoral ?? Really ??

"I have to wonder why every established political group is so dead set against doing anything about illegal immigration; especially with more and more Americans speaking out against it. When do we say, "Enough, we have to preserve our national identity and the sanctity of our national borders." Every country in the world has that mindset except us."

You've been voting in Republicans and Democrats for 16+ years who would not touch this career-ending topic. You yourself did absolutely NOTHING to abate it, that would be my guess !!

"We cant even vote these guys out because we never have a decent choice of candidate to choose from, it's always who is gonna screw up the country less than the other guy rather than who will actually do their job."

On whose political action group did you work on to change all this ??

"The problem is that a truly constitutionally minded political party tends to weaken the “lesser” of the two evils we are contending with now."


Only if you sit back and complain !! Have you taken ANY actionable stance to build a 3rd, 4th, or 5th competitive political party ??

"Each candidate should sign a pledge that he/she recognizes the Constitution and Bill of Rights as written and understood by our Founding Fathers as the governing documents of the United States and will actively support them first and foremost. If they refuse to sign the pledge, don't vote for them. Knowing what the candidate believes might let us elect some Statesmen who love this Country rather than professional politicians."


This is as it was written, and has been bastardized ever since !! Your offer of sound judgement and change is ????????




"Arm the guards, and tell them there is no bag limit on wetbacks."

"Wetbacks" really !! And not the Canadians, not the Cubans, not the Russians, not the Somoans, not the Italians ?? Damn. so everyone who didn't finish the Citizenship Class, like your family, are subject to deportation ??

"Second, catch every illegal and send them back where they came from. Show them a movie of the border guards at work, including the dead bodies. Should be self-explanatory."

I am assuming this includes your granparents and mine ??

Cyr- Either you've been HEAVILY into the scotch, or you have become totally isolated from the mainstream as to be scary !! We are the same age, and I only hope that you have the badges of courage to support your ill-informed ideals !!

Most of the families in America came here as immigrants at one time or another. They were more than not faced with learning the language and assimilating into the culture without government agencies providing forms in their home language. These folks came to a wide open country with a need of hardworking citizens who would be willing to fend for themselves and work hard to build a good family life for themselves and provide their children with a bright future. Contrast today where many who come to this country find a nation that has less opportunity. Some are willing to work within the system to build a better life and become productive members of the American society. Far more, however, come here and demand that the system change to fit their needs. Many come here because they can receive government assistance, healthcare provided by the American people and a free education for their children.
At some point we must realize that we must protect our own. We must make adjustments to insure that our childrens future is not sold to fund the needs and wishes of those who come here looking for a place to live but require the people here to conform to their needs. We must put out the no vacancies sign and enforce this by whatever means necessary.
What Americans have or have not done in the past is of little importance at this point. The only thing that matters is what we do now. Our country is in real trouble and if we continue to sit by and allow it to devolve our children will suffer for our inaction…………………………………………………..If this makes me a bad person ………I can live with that…………………….

[Rambo]

We should start with the long-time residents and set the example for the newcomers. No more Italian-American festivals, St. Patricks Day parades, German-American celebrations, Norwegian days in Decorah, Ia, Kwanza, Juneteenth, celebrating African-American heritage in February, Columbus Day, Cinco de Mayo by bars selling Corona beer and other ethnic celebrations.
I, for one, have no problem celebrating America as a one people country. I've been in other countries and have never seen an Italian-German festival or a British-French one either. Let's be more nationalistic and while we're at it, bring back our manufacturing industry from Mexico, China, Colombia, Canada, Macaua, Bangladesh, VietNam, etc. Let's put "Made in America" back in style. I could start buying Levi's again.

[nathangdad]

I, for one, make a yearly financial contribution to the Libertarian Party of Texas. I am not for all of their points but I do feel much closer to them than to the Dems or Republicans. I also vote Libertarian.

Let us not forget that one really big reason we have what we have now in Washington is because Bush2, Donald Rumsfeld, Rice, and group sunk the Republican Party to the point it was just a matter of Obama and company to fall into the political vacuum.

[Windwalker]

Cyrano, I agree in general with what you posted. Even if all American Citizens agreed, which they won't, there are enough illegals, Government agencies supporting them, big companies bankrolling the illegals, and enough votes to make our professional politicians fear losing their cushy jobs to try to pass any of these ideas.

[ArkansasHunter]

I agree whith Windwalker 100% I'll go on to say with the whites still the majority in America only we can bring forth this change.
Were not out to hurt any minority, were out to bring America back to one Nation, one langauge and one culture which is American.

Weve learned to date we don't need partys, we need men and women with vishion, honesty and a belief in our constitution and bill of rights.

Our present form of goverment does not work !!!

About Illegals...Deport them because they broke the law comeing here illegaly.

Imigrataion...For those who want to come here they need to know It's our way and not theres, what your leaveing stays where you left.


What's sad, we as Born American's have NO mean's to bring about these changes.
A.H