10-24-2009, 07:35 PM
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#21 | | Resident Curmudgeon
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Originally Posted by SightNSqueeze  | I can't comment on the Aimpoint, but M16A2s were issued to the Marines of the logistics group that I was with in Iraq and they were good rifles when kept clean every day. I think the environment will be kinder to your M16A2 in Afghanistan that the environment of Iraq. Be sure to clean your mags and check your rounds from time to time. Good luck down range and may God be with you and the other fine warriors in the GWT. | Adding to SnS said, cap, I have a suggestion for you, delivered second-hand from a buddy who put in a year in the Sandbox.
Get yourself a pint bottle of Gunzilla and use that to clean your rifle instead of the issue CLP. According to a salty Marine gunnery sergeant, it's the only stuff he's ever found that will get an M-16 to perform the way Colt claims it does, and really doesn't, out in the field where you'll be. I'd suggest getting a .223 boresnake, too.
Keep your eyes and ears open, pal. Good luck!
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10-24-2009, 07:48 PM
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I am leaving also soon for Afghanistan for convoy security maybe we will bump head's sometime..Also We have got issued all the new stuff... 
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10-24-2009, 07:50 PM
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Captianflip. Regardless what kind of mount you use on your gun.. Choose a Aimpoint with 2 MOA dot in that case you can take pretty long shots.
Ive use them on a H&K G3 on my trip to Yugoslavia in the mid 90. (in the swedish army). not just becuse they are made in sweden, they are really good red dot sights.. SALUTE...
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10-24-2009, 08:45 PM
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#24 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by Swe_shark75 | Captianflip. Regardless what kind of mount you use on your gun.. Choose a Aimpoint with 2 MOA dot in that case you can take pretty long shots.
Ive use them on a H&K G3 on my trip to Yugoslavia in the mid 90. (in the swedish army). not just becuse they are made in sweden, they are really good red dot sights.. SALUTE...
Swe_shark75 | H&K G3 service rifles, with or without Aimpoints, would be excellent rifles for duty in Afghanistan. Modified M-14 service rifles are already being pressed back into service now, I wish there were enough of them.
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10-25-2009, 07:39 AM
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#25 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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hell ill take an m14 with iron sights any day in afghanistan over a 16. them crazy sons a bitches all hopped up on opium, hashish, and heroin eat a 5.56 like it was dinner. 7.62 puts them down hard, especially from a belt fed
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10-25-2009, 01:22 PM
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10-25-2009, 11:37 PM
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Just Say No to plastic rails. Get a set of rails from YHM, they're aluminum and they cost the same as those plastic ones. They're US made, and they're quality. The VFG you picked is fine. You can mount the LED to the rail, so ditch the third thing. Yes, go with the PMAGS. Get 6, you'll probably lose some. The rest of the stuff is fine. Good luck!
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10-26-2009, 01:04 AM
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#28 | | Firearm Zealot
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Good luck, captainflip 
Nasty situation you are headed into...convoys have their fair share of danger in Afghanistan.
I'd see if you could scare up an old M-60 or a new M-240 for whoever's riding shotgun with ya 
Kind of a shame they don't give you guys MP-5's or something more useful for the trucks.
If you can swing it, get a M-9A1 pistol in a low-leg (tactical) holster like the base fuzz use...that way you can still shift & draw while sitting without too much fuss
Should be able to get issued one from the Armoury, if you sweet talk the Armourer just right
Something like any of the below.   
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10-26-2009, 02:49 AM
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#29 | | CERTIFIABLE GUN NUT
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Originally Posted by Cyrano | Adding to SnS said, cap, I have a suggestion for you, delivered second-hand from a buddy who put in a year in the Sandbox.
Get yourself a pint bottle of Gunzilla and use that to clean your rifle instead of the issue CLP. According to a salty Marine gunnery sergeant, it's the only stuff he's ever found that will get an M-16 to perform the way Colt claims it does, and really doesn't, out in the field where you'll be. I'd suggest getting a .223 boresnake, too.
Keep your eyes and ears open, pal. Good luck! |
I would think a can of Hornady's One Shot Dry Lube would also work over there in either of the sandboxes? Like it says, it's a dry lube and lubricates without leaving a wet residue for something to stick to.
I have heard it's suppose to also work great on Ruger 10/22's. We all know how dirty .22lrs can be and get your gun. It'll still get dirty and need to be cleaned, just not as quick... 
Product description: This cleaner and lube reduces friction and removes grit, grime and old oil from firearms, loaders and loading tools. It leaves a thin, dry lube impervious to heat or cold. And it won't build up. Comes with a 5 inch spray nozzle. Size: 5.5 oz. Cabela's -- Hornady One Shot™ Gun Cleaner and Dry Lube
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10-26-2009, 02:51 AM
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#30 | | CERTIFIABLE GUN NUT
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Originally Posted by captainflip | Hello everyone. Im Phil and I'm getting ready for my first deployment in Afghanistan. We have all been issued very old M16A2 rifles and have no equipment for them. I am a truck driver and expect to be on the road and probably will have to defend myself and want tro be as prepared as possible. I am looking at buying a personal Aimpoint and havent used one except for that one time in basic two years ago (which just so happens to be the only time my accuracy was semi-decent). Does anyone have advice on what type I should get even from other brands. Are they truly accurate from any rail position? And how do I zero it? | Stay safe and like cyrano said, keep your eyes and ears open... And by all means, keep an eye on and watch your 6 also...
And FWIW, if you or anyone else wants one, I have one of these Z mounts. $15 plus $7 to ship. 
This link is to the same thing, just to show they want $23.99, but they do offer free shipping. http://www.impactguns.com/store/GMG-CHZM.html
And if I read it right, the place this next link takes you to, previously linked in a different post, it's ridiculous they want $69.95 for the same damn thing. I don't think so. lol What, are they friggin' NUTS! http://www.gunsmokeenterprises.net/Mounts.html
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10-26-2009, 07:36 AM
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10-26-2009, 07:16 PM
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#32 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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you dont need to worry about it inside the truck...there's nothing you can do inside anyways. you can't open the windows. the only reason you could ever use your rifle inside the truck is in a 7 ton out the gun ports. you get blown up, you get out and react. just watch for ied's and set up security fast if you hit them so the enemy thinks twice about a follow on attack. and you'll have your medium and heavy gun's up top in the turrets. as much as everyone wants to get "salty" and get in the firefight of there life, it's not worth it. and the better your gear is, the more effective you are, the quicker its over, and hopefully no one but the enemy dies. pistols are pointless over there, i mean it's better to have it and not need it but i didnt bring mine out. the get caught on everything when your trying to get out the truck. your m16 will be fine as it is man, i would get the a2 mount with a nice optic. that's all you'll need. the foregrip you can do without.
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10-26-2009, 09:43 PM
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I suggest the Z mount of some kind. Rails add weight, something to think about. Also mounting optics on a drop in 4 rail forearm isn't going to work well to hold zero. If you had a free float forerail you could do it but I doubt that will be alowed as major modification would be required.
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As stated above... Please do not put those plastic quad rail handguards on your duty gun... I wouldn't even put those on a 22lr ar for plinking. Everything else looks ok. I think there are better grips and light mounts out there, but those will work...
At the very minimum get a YHM quad rail. They're not that expensive. If you want something nicer, get a larue or daniel defense, or even troy. They're quite a bit more expensive, but much lighter, and hold their resale value very well.
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10-26-2009, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jashoffa | I suggest the Z mount of some kind. Rails add weight, something to think about. Also mounting optics on a drop in 4 rail forearm isn't going to work well to hold zero. If you had a free float forerail you could do it but I doubt that will be alowed as major modification would be required.
Stay safe and god speed! | +1, with a acog or an eothech, something of quality
and at4's right, dont add those plastic hand guards
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10-26-2009, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by at4rxj | As stated above... Please do not put those plastic quad rail handguards on your duty gun... I wouldn't even put those on a 22lr ar for plinking. Everything else looks ok. I think there are better grips and light mounts out there, but those will work...
At the very minimum get a YHM quad rail. They're not that expensive. If you want something nicer, get a larue or daniel defense, or even troy. They're quite a bit more expensive, but much lighter, and hold their resale value very well. | What he said, I stay away from CAA products for serious stuff and thats what you will be doing.
As someone else said, you can mount your light directly to the handguard with your rail system. No need to mount it to the front sight post.
I use LaRue Tactical mounts for all my lights and optics, they use quick detach levers and they lock on solid and real tight with no movement.
They make a vertical foregrip that comes on and off super easy with the use of their throw lever but only if you want it too.
When its on, it feels like its a permanent part of your rail system. A lot tighter than the one made by Tango Down.
LaRue Tactical, DD,and Troy are all excellent but I think that all the rail systems that LT make require you to take off your delta ring (someone correct me if Im wrong) which means its a bit more complicated than simply popping off your standard 2 piece handguards and snapping on your new ones.
DD makes an Omega rail system that's a free float system but doesnt require you to remove the delta ring but its a bit more pricy at $339.00 for a full length rifle size. Daniel Defense, Inc | Browse | Omega Rail | Omega Rail 12.0 (Rifle)
I know thats expensive but when it comes to AR/M16 parts you often times get what you pay for. Its very light weight compared to other rail systems and it locks on rock solid which would be a plus if you are mounting optics on it. Weight can be a big factor depending on how far/long/much you are carrying it, especially when you start to add stuff to it. As your going to be a driver it might not be that much of a deal.
I have an Omega rail for my carbine and i cant say enough about it.
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10-26-2009, 11:32 PM
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#37 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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^+1
i had a CAA pistol grip on my m4 in the beginning of my deployment and it snapped in half while i was bouncing around in the turret one patrol
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10-27-2009, 06:25 PM
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