11-19-2009, 05:24 PM
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#21 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Fatstrat, Have you contacted the company about the problem or e-mailed Jeff about what ammo he used? Not all .22's are going to shoot the bulk stuff reliably. How many different brands & types of ammo did you try? Al lthat was mentioned was the Federal Bulk HP ammo.
Our little Taurus was finicky with all but the CCI Mini-Mags.
My Phoneix was also bad about stove-pipeing untill I switched to Winchester Super-X (silver box), from then on it was great.
I sold a High Standard ( A GRERAT rimfire pistol by any measure ) to my 1st cousin that had an occasional feed problem. It was entirely the magazine's fault. (Feed lips not bent to correct spec.)
I am absolutly in no way what so ever trying to discredit your initial repport on this gun. And I thank you for the review. But I have to look at it as just that. An initial review. Untill you have tried many different brands & types of ammo, I just can not put much merrit into the review being the final answer on the gun.
Fit & finnish is what it is. For the cheapest 1911 style .22 on the market, fit & finish would be way down on my priority list. But I do agree with it not being worth $299. More in the $200 - $225 ish range would be more appropriate.
I think the price is going to kill this pistol before it ever gets onto the market.
For about the same money, I would have to go with the time tested, tried & true Ruger 22/45. J.M. .02
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11-20-2009, 01:37 AM
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#22 | | Firearm Zealot
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It's a cool concept, but I think I'll be staying away. I have enough handguns chambered in .22 already anyways....
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11-20-2009, 10:04 AM
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#23 | | Firearm Zealot
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Sorry you got a bad one. Take it back, let them send it to the factory, and trade it on a Browning Buck Mark Micro.
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11-20-2009, 03:38 PM
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#24 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Coyote: You read my mind. I'm not giving up on it yet. .22 ammo is still hard to come by in this area, but managed to pick up a couple boxes of Winchester silver box on way home from work. Wanted Mini-Mags,but no luck. I'm hoping different ammo/more break-in might help. I still think it's overpriced. But an affordable, dedicated 1911 style pistol is something I've wanted for years. And I'm no stranger to trouble shooting gun problems. In 50 yrs of being a "gun nut", this is only the 2nd gun I've ever purchased new. The vast majority of my guns were acquired in poor to fair, often non-working condition, and the repaired/restored. In fact the funds for this pistol were diverted from a Winchester 1890 project.
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11-20-2009, 07:55 PM
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#25 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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| Read This... It's Pretty Funny and From A Dealer Trying to Sell it!
I just saw this posted by a dealer trying to sell this POS:
"... Main Safety works like any 1911, but the Grip Safety is merely cosmetic and non-functional. Front sight is Government type ramp, and appears to be stake-on. Rear sight is drift only adjustable black fixed, and appears to be made of pot metal, and the entire pistol pretty much appears to be pot metal. In fact, the only place a magnet will stick to is the barrel, the extractor, and the internal lock mounted in the right rear side of the slide. On a more positive note, the only plastic appears to be the grips; even the trigger appears to be pot metal. Surface coating approaches a blue coloration, but puts one in mind of Crossman air pistols. Magazine is entirely plastic. We test fired the first specimen we received, the one in the photo, and it failed to feed more than 3 consecutive rounds of any ammunition, including Centurion, CCI, Federal, Remington, or Winchester. If a person wants a 1911 look alike for nostalgic purposes, and one that will shoot occasionally, this might be attractive. Note we said one that will shoot occasionally, not one to take shooting occasionally."
The best and most honest report I have seen yet! I personally think I will let someone else (besides Fatstrat) be the guinea pig. Good luck succkars...
There is also another good saying, "You get what you pay for" and "If it seems too good to be true it probably is".
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11-20-2009, 07:59 PM
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#26 | | Firearm Zealot 
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Oh hell I was afraid they'd be crummy too bad
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11-20-2009, 08:10 PM
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#27 | | CERTIFIABLE GUN NUT
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Speaking about 1911 look-a-likes, anyone seen or checked out the Citadel's?
Just wondering if they're any good? Citadel m1911 Concealed Carry.45acp $NO RESERVE!! : Semi-auto at GunBroker.com
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11-21-2009, 02:40 AM
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#28 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by Mr. 22  | I just saw this posted by a dealer trying to sell this POS:
"... Main Safety works like any 1911, but the Grip Safety is merely cosmetic and non-functional. Front sight is Government type ramp, and appears to be stake-on. Rear sight is drift only adjustable black fixed, and appears to be made of pot metal, and the entire pistol pretty much appears to be pot metal. In fact, the only place a magnet will stick to is the barrel, the extractor, and the internal lock mounted in the right rear side of the slide. On a more positive note, the only plastic appears to be the grips; even the trigger appears to be pot metal. Surface coating approaches a blue coloration, but puts one in mind of Crossman air pistols. Magazine is entirely plastic. We test fired the first specimen we received, the one in the photo, and it failed to feed more than 3 consecutive rounds of any ammunition, including Centurion, CCI, Federal, Remington, or Winchester. If a person wants a 1911 look alike for nostalgic purposes, and one that will shoot occasionally, this might be attractive. Note we said one that will shoot occasionally, not one to take shooting occasionally."
The best and most honest report I have seen yet! I personally think I will let someone else (besides Fatstrat) be the guinea pig. Good luck succkars...
There is also another good saying, "You get what you pay for" and "If it seems too good to be true it probably is". | Sounds more like they went into it with a bias against it to me.
Got a link to the full review?
I'm more inclined to listen to Jeff Quinn than most online reviewers... Chiappa 1911-22 Semi-Auto .22 LR |
Functioning was also very reliable. This pistol is set up to run with high velocity ammo, and with that type, functioning was one-hundred percent. Standard velocity ammo also cycled very well, but would not always have enough power to lock open the slide on an empty magazine, which is no fault of the pistol. With cheap bulk Federal, it worked perfectly. With cheap bulk Winchester XPert, it did as well. With the Winchester Dynapoints, it also functioned perfectly, as it did with CCI Mini-Mags. Feeding with everything was perfect, and only two stovepipe jams were experienced with the low-velocity stuff.
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11-21-2009, 02:46 PM
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#29 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Like I said... it's NOT an online review... it's from a dealer trying to sell them!!
You'd think he would be hyping them up... the dude is trying to sell 'em! That is why I think it is so honest.
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11-22-2009, 01:40 PM
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#30 | | Firearm Zealot
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I gotta see that, post a link 
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11-23-2009, 03:19 AM
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#31 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Originally Posted by big shrek I gotta see that, post a link | I don't want to advertise for anybody - PM'd it to ya...
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11-23-2009, 03:04 PM
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#32 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Maybe the one the dealer got was a lemon. It happens you know. There are some luke warm posts out there but a lot of them are pretty good too.
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11-23-2009, 03:12 PM
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#33 | | Firearm Zealot
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This outfit is Importing a version of the Chiappa that is matte black and plain looking.
Sorry the picture did'nt show up...
1911-22 with black finish
MKS Supply, Inc., Dayton, OH, – Yes you read right, a full .22 caliber 1911 .45ACP clone for under $300!
For a price under most .22 conversion units MKS Supply, Inc., is making available a fantastic buy for gun owners across the country. “We feel this affordable, accurate, reliable pistol will be exceptionally received by those who want a 1911 ACP clone in the popular, affordable and fun .22 LR rimfire round.”
Details: This is a full size clone of the standard 1911 .45 ACP. The weight is less because both the slide and the frame are constructed of aluminum alloy. The lighter slide in particular also allows for reliable functioning it has much less mass for the recoil action of the diminutive .22LR round to function.
The internal components of the 1911-22 are all steel of course. The steel barrel insert is fixed to the slide to provide better accuracy. The fixed barrel also eliminates some not necessary parts found in the original .45 which was designed for full disassembly due to battlefield conditions.
The finish on the slide and frame is a flat black oxide finish. MKS Supply is also going to make available olive drab and desert tan models with powder coated slides.
The magazines are made of formed industrial-grade polymer and have been proven in extensive testing to be incredibly reliable as the polymer forming process ensures they are identical thus eliminating steel assembly and fit variances. And yes, MKS Supply will offer extra magazines at a no-gouge price under $20 MSRP.
SpecificationsStocks (grips):Walnut with laser cut checkering.Sights: Dovetail rear-drift adjustable sight (like original military sights).Barrel length:5-inches.Physical dimensions:Same as the standard 1911.Weight: 32-ounces (a standard military 1911 .45ACP is 40-ounces).Models:Standard black finish, olive drab finish, and desert tan finish.Magazine capacity:10-rounds. One magazine is included. Warranty: Full-year parts and labor.
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11-23-2009, 04:38 PM
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#34 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Well, if I had of heeded everything I read about my Colt M4 .22, my Sig Mosquito, and my GSG-5, I wouldn't have bought any of them. As it turns out, all those guns have worked flawlessly for me and I enjoy shooting them all. I would indeed like to see a 1911 clone in .22, but with all functioning parts. I hope the GSG 1911 .22 fits the bill. I had a Colt Service Ace back in the 1980's but sold it because it was very inaccurate. I had a Kimber .22 conversion kit for my Springfield Armory GI .45 but sold it because I hated switching back and forth. BTW, as long as it is cast correctly and in the proper thickness, a zinc alloy gun should be strong enough to handle a .22 LR HV round and continue doing so for years and years. I hear the GSG is going to be aluminum slide and frame. A bit pricier than the Chiappa though at a rumored $369.00 though.
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11-24-2009, 04:43 PM
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#35 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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I took mine out again.This time w/some Winchester silver box ammo. It fired the Winchester just fine w/one failure to fire due to light pin strike. Switched back to the Federal Bulk and it did better.But still a few jams and a few more light pin strikes. It does seem to work better the more it is fired.
Filed the front sight down and it shoots accurately. The alloy slide took cold blue touch up well. There may be hope for it.
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11-24-2009, 05:57 PM
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#36 | | Firearm Zealot
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11-25-2009, 02:30 AM
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#37 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by Fatstrat | I took mine out again.This time w/some Winchester silver box ammo. It fired the Winchester just fine w/one failure to fire due to light pin strike. Switched back to the Federal Bulk and it did better.But still a few jams and a few more light pin strikes. It does seem to work better the more it is fired.
Filed the front sight down and it shoots accurately. The alloy slide took cold blue touch up well. There may be hope for it. | I must be getting geezerly...I keep forgetting that some weapons are a bit fussy until they get 500-1,000 rounds thru 'em.
Gotta properly wear 'em in
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12-13-2009, 08:08 AM
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#38 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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If you want a flawless .22 pistol, get yourself a Trailside (hammerli) Target model. I have fired thousands of rounds of every kind of .22LR and never a hiccup and she is a tack driver. I have a MatchPoint red dot on her and have taught beginners to shoot with this Swiss miss.
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12-17-2009, 04:33 PM
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#39 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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I have now put 600 rds thru mine. And I am pleased to report that it is performing MUCH better. Except for 100 rds of Winchester, all of the ammo has been Federal Bulk HP. Still have the occasional stove-pipe,but they are getting fewer and further between. I've got the front sight filed down to zero at 25yrds. And it shoots accurately. I like it better every time I take it out.
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12-17-2009, 04:44 PM
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#40 | | Firearm Zealot
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Interstate Arms is Importing what appears to be a nicely made 1911 pistol from Turkey.
It is CNC machine made to tight tolorence's with Dealers cost being I think $396.xx give or take a buck.
Retail is I think $559.xx So it can probable be had in the $ 400.00 range.
The picture of it looks great...Go to Interstate to see it or find the Thread I put up last week at the 1911 Forum.
I'd buy one ...A.H
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