Old 10-28-2009, 09:33 PM   #1
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How much should I offer this guy?

I have a co-worker who has a Remmington 870 20 gague. He says, he got it as a trade for some car parts, and has no idea what it's worth. He is willing to sell it to me or trade it for another firearm.

To tell you the truth, I really just want to get the gun out of the guys hands. He's young, and knows nothing about guns. He came to me and asked and asked me to show him how to shoot the thing. He doesn't hunt, and doesn't want to hunt. He just got the gun for the hell of it. People like that make me a little nervous, so I offered to buy it. Don't get me wrong, if he decides to keep it, I will do everything I can to teach him the right way to handle it.

Now, I have found a ton of info about the 870, but not much concerning the price. What do these go for, new? I haven't seen the gun yet, but if it's clean and in good condition, I'm gonna make him an offer. What would be a good ballpark figure to throw out there, as an offer. Like I said, the guy doesn't know much about firearms. While I want to get a good deal, I don't want to rip him off at the same time. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 10-28-2009, 09:41 PM   #2
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A twenty sounds like a perfect fit for a new shooter, as far as shotguns go.

He obviously wants to learn, as you've said, so teach him! Be firm and strict, but not too hard as to turn him off from firearms. You could make a good shooting partner out of him yet. Make sure that he is SERIOUS about learning the proper and safe ways to handle firearms, and if he really is, go for it.
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Old 10-28-2009, 09:43 PM   #3
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If it is plain Barreled...200 to 250 in Mint shape
If it is a "Field Wingmaster" with a vent rib it is worth about 395 to 585 in Mint condition...
If it is an 870 Express model ....175 to as much as 295 Mint shape!

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Old 10-28-2009, 09:49 PM   #4
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If it is plain Barreled...200 to 250 in Mint shape
If it is a "Field Wingmaster" with a vent rib it is worth about 395 to 585 in Mint condition...
If it is an 870 Express model ....175 to as much as 295 Mint shape!

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Will the "Express" model be labeled as such on the barrel?
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Old 10-28-2009, 09:52 PM   #5
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Old 10-28-2009, 09:53 PM   #6
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I'm disappointed you're so eager to dismiss the teaching him option...
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Old 10-28-2009, 10:00 PM   #7
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Well,

we really need a picture or at least a detailed description of the gun in terms "newness" or "wear and tear".


There are a vast number of Remington's on the used market so the prices are not high for a typical production gun.

I would look at some pawn shops or gun stores to see what a comparable shotgun is selling for to get a fair price.
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Old 10-28-2009, 10:08 PM   #8
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A twenty sounds like a perfect fit for a new shooter, as far as shotguns go.

He obviously wants to learn, as you've said, so teach him! Be firm and strict, but not too hard as to turn him off from firearms. You could make a good shooting partner out of him yet. Make sure that he is SERIOUS about learning the proper and safe ways to handle firearms, and if he really is, go for it.

Well, I tend to go with my gut, and my gut tells me not to go anywhere near this kid with a loaded shotgun. I was the guy who trained him how to do his job, at work. He's the kind of guy who does things "his way" even after you show him the right way. He questions every thing he's told to do, and does the simplest tasks in a half assed manner.

When he told me he was getting the gun, I suggested that he take the "FREE" hunter's safety course at the local shooting range, he laughed at the idea. Asking "Why? I don't wanna hunt.". I explained that it would give him a good foundation on how to handle, carry, clean, and fire the shotgun. He wasn't interested.

I will give him as much instruction as I can, but I'm not prepared to go into the field with a kid that has no respect for authority, and zero interest in how to do things the right way. I know the guy well enough to not want to be around him and a loaded gun.

Young people are not the same as they were years ago. I was given my first rifle (a Sears and Roebuck .22) at nine years old. I was taught how to respect it. I had to learn how to handle it, take it apart, and clean it before I was ever allowed to fire it.

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Old 10-28-2009, 10:11 PM   #9
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I'm disappointed you're so eager to dismiss the teaching him option...
Please read my last post.
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Old 10-28-2009, 10:19 PM   #10
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I would'nt give any more than $135.00 for it if it is a used Express model. If it looked excellent condition $150.00.
Another thing it could be stolen to.
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Old 10-28-2009, 10:43 PM   #11
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The last 870 Express that I bought (for my son over 15 years ago) had a kind of Parkerized finish and pretty cheap (for Remington) looking stock. Don't remember if barrel said Express or not.
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Old 10-29-2009, 12:15 AM   #12
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Thanks for all of the advice! I will let you guys know how it turns out. I'm gonna meet with him over the weekend. I'll let you know how it turns out. Thanks!
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:08 PM   #13
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Just because he has no respect for authority hell when i was a kid i did not have much use for authority still dont for that matter most people with a little authority come off like barney fife not all just most
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