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Old 10-29-2009, 05:34 PM   #1
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Parallels to Nazi Germany is History Repeating?

Has anyone else seen many parallels to 1930's Nazi Germany to current day America? I have been seeing parallels even before the election, primarily from how the Obama campaign used it's propaganda and it's influence upon the population. However, now I am seeing the true colors of totalitarianism within this government, unfolding itself right in daylight. History will always repeat itself, that's a fact of human nature. The progressive movement towards a totalitarian state is in fact natural, and the fall of such system is also inevitable and usually leads to a re-structuring of society. Over a certain period of time, when a government is in existence it becomes larger and more unstable, predominantly it becomes oppressive over time and reaches a brink point of complete tyranny then falls. Such as the Roman Empire did, ironically when our founding fathers created this nation they knew a Republic would eventually dissolve into tyranny then collapse. America being the worlds greatest superpower has been growing at an exponential rate and has become more oppressive over time, we are beginning to see the chink in the armor. Tyranny will eventually fully display itself then collapse and we will build a new nation from the ground up.

All those who say this is a tinfoil hat conspiracy, the government isn't bad, they just are trying to help us, health care is needed, are all living in some strange fantasy land, the outer limits, or perhaps the twilight zone. Throughout history we have seen people with the same ideological mind set, they ignore what is in front of them and toss it aside as if it was lunacy. These are the same people whom have allowed oppression, turn the other cheek, and label anyone that has an opposing view, un-patriotic, ignorant, hateful, etc.
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I'll see it when someone can make us all believe that the cause of our troubled economy is due to illegal immigration and start rounding up all 12 million illegals, put them in camps and start to systematically gas them. That'll be the tell-tale sign of us becoming like Nazi Germany. Otherwise, it's just tough times that every country is going through right now, not just the United States.
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There are no parallels to NAZI Germany. The economics are different, the politics are different and the taste for war is non-existent.
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The comparision is obsurd and an uneducated statement. I think you need to go back and read some history before posting somthing this obsurd. There is no Communist party here the uneployment rate is not at the 30% rate we were not recenty completely humiliated in a world war and then made the scapegoat for the whole thing and forced to pay for it. So I ask in what way are the circumstances here in the United States similar to Germany in the 30's that made the people turn to Socialism as a way out of the horrible times that the country was going through?

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YES, Bush2 and Obama are, despite what people might wish to think, very similar.

For Bush2 it was all about creating greater and greater police power, warrantless searches of people for the sake of searching, keeping suspected enemies in prison without either trial or conviction in a court of law, and so on and on and on . . .

For Obama it is about crushing viewpoints differing from his objectives.
Obama is more and more moving beyond Federalist elitism toward Marxism.
He wants his version of America.

America is so far from the land of the free it hurts to think about it.
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Obama is a puppet for the NWO crowd. But the parallels to Germany of the thirtys are frightening. It won't be illegal aliens that become the scapegoats. It will be the senior citizens. This new "Health Care Bill" is a glorified system for euthenasia, designed to eliminate the 60 TRILLION dollar promises the government can't keep, due to their uncontrolled squandering of the taxpayer money for the last 60 years.

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Obama is a puppet for the NWO crowd. But the parallels to Germany of the thirtys are frightening. It won't be illegal aliens that become the scapegoats. It will be the senior citizens. This new "Health Care Bill" is a glorified system for euthenasia, designed to eliminate the 60 TRILLION dollar promises the government can't keep, due to their uncontrolled squandering of the taxpayer money for the last 60 years.

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There are many parallels that I have noticed in the last few weeks that are disturbing to me, and no we are not gonna kill Jews or Illegals.
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As far as the police state goes. I think it is heading in that direction. It may never fully be like the police state NAZI Germany was but it is getting there. I think it was more of the Bush administration implementing the patriot act and the supreme court ruling that police can use evidence found in a home, for example, even if they didn't have a warrant in the first place. It is better for the police to get criminals and have evidence against them but now there isn't much stopping them from doing warantless searches on any citizen. That, is why we are heading in the direction of a police state. As far as Obama goes, he doesn't have the cajones to do anything Hitler did and I don't see any camps or roundups happening either. I would be very surprised if that happened and I sure wouldn't go silently like the poor souls did during the rule of the third reich. The economy is in shambles, but we are not exterminating anybody...
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Obama's tie has the symbols of the Illuminati. He was installed with the help of the Trilateral Commission and the Cub Scouts. He drinks a fresh glass of baby blood every morning to satiate his vampirism. WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!111
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Department of Homeland Security: American presidents have before now referred to the US as "the nation" or "the republic," and to the nation's policies as "domestic."

By 1930 Nazi propagandists referred to Germany not as "the nation" or "the republic" - which it was - but rather as "the Heimat" - "the Homeland"

"Heimat is a German word which has no satisfactory equivalent in other languages. It denoted the region where one has been born and remains rooted.... Longing to be in the Heimat causes the incurable disease of Heimweh" - Ernstine Bradley (born and raised in Germany)

After 9-11 Condi Rice and VP Cheney coined a new phrase: America is on a "war footing." Were we really at war?

Nazi leaders explained, after the Reichstag fire, that Germany, which was not actually at war, was from then on a permanent "kriegsfusz"- literally, a "war footing."

2000 Mobs of young men dressed in identical shirts shouting outside a voting center in Florida to intimidate people to stop a recount.
1930s Mobs of men dressed in identical shirts (brown shirts) stood near voting stations shouting and intimidating people.

2003 Mobs of young republicans are organized by the National Party to make bonfires and burn CD's produced by the Dixie Chicks
1930s Mobs of Brown shirts and Hitler Youth are organized by the Nazi Party to make bonfires and burn books written by those they disagreed with.

2000s The FBI being told to stop peace activists flying or boarding aircraft on orders of the White House.
1930s The German authorities were instructed to stop peace activists and other “trouble makers” at airports.

2003 When the U.S. invaded Iraq V.P. Cheney asserted we would be “greeted as liberators”.
1930s When the Nazi's invaded the Rhineland, Nazi propaganda asserted that they would be “greeted as liberators”

2000s Bush Administration using phrases such as “hiding in spider-holes”
1930's Nazi's would find their enemies “hiding in their spider-holes”

2000s The Bush administration increased security restrictions at airports. Airport security guards were forcing passengers to drink their own breast milk. Others to drink baby formula in front of all the other passengers
1930s One of Mussolini's intimidation tactics was to force citizens to drink body fluids and emetics in public. The Nazi's followed suit with breast milk and urine in front of the other passengers.

2001 USA Patriot Act let federal officials compel doctors to hand over confidential medical records without a warrant showing probable cause.
1930s German doctors were required to disclose citizens previously private medical records to the state.

2005 Guantanamo prisoners reported seeing the Koran being flushed down toilets.
1938 the Gestapo forced Jews to scrub out toilets with their sacred phylacteries, the tfillin.

2004 Amnesty International reports US interrogators tormented prisoners by playing heavy metal at top volume day and night.
1930s 1938 the Gestapo interrogators tormented prisoners by playing music on the radio at top volume day and night.

2004 Iraqi human rights group complained that in 2004 the US forces seized the innocent wives of suspected insurgents and held the women hostage to pressure their husbands to turn themselves in.
1930s In Stalinist Russia, the secret police seized the innocent wives of suspected dissidents and held the women hostage to pressure their husbands to turn themselves in.

2003 The Bush White House “embedded” reporters with U.S. Military units in Iraq. Uncritical coverage of the war expanded considerably.
1930s Nazi propaganda officials embedded reporters and camera crews with their armed forces. U.S reporters drove with German units into France.

2003 The Bush administration unloads coffins of dead American soldiers from planes at night and has forbidden photographs being taken of them.
1930s The Nazi's unloaded the coffins of German military dead only at night and no photographs were allowed.

2001 Paid informants having received hundreds of thousands of dollars found a “sleeper cell” in Lodi, California. The two men explained later that they had confessed to the imaginary “sleeper cell” to end the terrifying series of interrogations.
1930s Stalin invented “Sleeper cells” and had paid informants find them among the general public. Stalin said that the US Government was planting the sleepers so that one day they could all rise up and create mayhem

2005 “Sleeper cell” was a term most Americans were unfamiliar with until a TV movie in 2005
1930s Stalins “sleeper cells” Made sure the general population were alerted to the threat, made everyone suspicious, of everyone.

2006 a terrorist plot against US bound planes uncovered in London gave the world a much quoted sound bite “ If this had actually happened the world would have stood still”
1930s After Hitler had set up his plan for world domination said that if everything happens as planned “the world will stand and hold it's breath”

2006 At first the only people held at Guantanamo Cuba were brown skinned foreigners, in October 2006 that changed and white English speaking prisoners began to appear. They had been charged with treason, espionage, subversion and aiding the enemy
1930s At first the Germans arrested only the Communists and criminals and enemies of the state and placed them in concentration camps. But is was not long before he turned his attention to a group long held as potential spy's and subversives the Jews.

2007 The White House by May 2007 had started to criminalize free speech in new ways. Journalists have been arrested and released after a warning, editors are being treated the same way.
1930s Germany started to crack down on anyone who did not agree with the Nazi philosophy. Journalists were arrested and released after a warning, editors were treated the same way. Anyone criticizing the Nazi party or any official of the party was subject to arrest, torture, and trial not in a German court but by tribunal outside the normal judicial system
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Department of Homeland Security: American presidents have before now referred to the US as "the nation" or "the republic," and to the nation's policies as "domestic."

By 1930 Nazi propagandists referred to Germany not as "the nation" or "the republic" - which it was - but rather as "the Heimat" - "the Homeland"

"Heimat is a German word which has no satisfactory equivalent in other languages. It denoted the region where one has been born and remains rooted.... Longing to be in the Heimat causes the incurable disease of Heimweh" - Ernstine Bradley (born and raised in Germany)

After 9-11 Condi Rice and VP Cheney coined a new phrase: America is on a "war footing." Were we really at war?

Nazi leaders explained, after the Reichstag fire, that Germany, which was not actually at war, was from then on a permanent "kriegsfusz"- literally, a "war footing."

2000 Mobs of young men dressed in identical shirts shouting outside a voting center in Florida to intimidate people to stop a recount.
1930s Mobs of men dressed in identical shirts (brown shirts) stood near voting stations shouting and intimidating people.

2003 Mobs of young republicans are organized by the National Party to make bonfires and burn CD's produced by the Dixie Chicks
1930s Mobs of Brown shirts and Hitler Youth are organized by the Nazi Party to make bonfires and burn books written by those they disagreed with.

2000s The FBI being told to stop peace activists flying or boarding aircraft on orders of the White House.
1930s The German authorities were instructed to stop peace activists and other “trouble makers” at airports.

2003 When the U.S. invaded Iraq V.P. Cheney asserted we would be “greeted as liberators”.
1930s When the Nazi's invaded the Rhineland, Nazi propaganda asserted that they would be “greeted as liberators”

2000s Bush Administration using phrases such as “hiding in spider-holes”
1930's Nazi's would find their enemies “hiding in their spider-holes”

2000s The Bush administration increased security restrictions at airports. Airport security guards were forcing passengers to drink their own breast milk. Others to drink baby formula in front of all the other passengers
1930s One of Mussolini's intimidation tactics was to force citizens to drink body fluids and emetics in public. The Nazi's followed suit with breast milk and urine in front of the other passengers.

2001 USA Patriot Act let federal officials compel doctors to hand over confidential medical records without a warrant showing probable cause.
1930s German doctors were required to disclose citizens previously private medical records to the state.

2005 Guantanamo prisoners reported seeing the Koran being flushed down toilets.
1938 the Gestapo forced Jews to scrub out toilets with their sacred phylacteries, the tfillin.

2004 Amnesty International reports US interrogators tormented prisoners by playing heavy metal at top volume day and night.
1930s 1938 the Gestapo interrogators tormented prisoners by playing music on the radio at top volume day and night.

2004 Iraqi human rights group complained that in 2004 the US forces seized the innocent wives of suspected insurgents and held the women hostage to pressure their husbands to turn themselves in.
1930s In Stalinist Russia, the secret police seized the innocent wives of suspected dissidents and held the women hostage to pressure their husbands to turn themselves in.

2003 The Bush White House “embedded” reporters with U.S. Military units in Iraq. Uncritical coverage of the war expanded considerably.
1930s Nazi propaganda officials embedded reporters and camera crews with their armed forces. U.S reporters drove with German units into France.

2003 The Bush administration unloads coffins of dead American soldiers from planes at night and has forbidden photographs being taken of them.
1930s The Nazi's unloaded the coffins of German military dead only at night and no photographs were allowed.

2001 Paid informants having received hundreds of thousands of dollars found a “sleeper cell” in Lodi, California. The two men explained later that they had confessed to the imaginary “sleeper cell” to end the terrifying series of interrogations.
1930s Stalin invented “Sleeper cells” and had paid informants find them among the general public. Stalin said that the US Government was planting the sleepers so that one day they could all rise up and create mayhem

2005 “Sleeper cell” was a term most Americans were unfamiliar with until a TV movie in 2005
1930s Stalins “sleeper cells” Made sure the general population were alerted to the threat, made everyone suspicious, of everyone.

2006 a terrorist plot against US bound planes uncovered in London gave the world a much quoted sound bite “ If this had actually happened the world would have stood still”
1930s After Hitler had set up his plan for world domination said that if everything happens as planned “the world will stand and hold it's breath”

2006 At first the only people held at Guantanamo Cuba were brown skinned foreigners, in October 2006 that changed and white English speaking prisoners began to appear. They had been charged with treason, espionage, subversion and aiding the enemy
1930s At first the Germans arrested only the Communists and criminals and enemies of the state and placed them in concentration camps. But is was not long before he turned his attention to a group long held as potential spy's and subversives the Jews.

2007 The White House by May 2007 had started to criminalize free speech in new ways. Journalists have been arrested and released after a warning, editors are being treated the same way.
1930s Germany started to crack down on anyone who did not agree with the Nazi philosophy. Journalists were arrested and released after a warning, editors were treated the same way. Anyone criticizing the Nazi party or any official of the party was subject to arrest, torture, and trial not in a German court but by tribunal outside the normal judicial system
Nice parrallels. The denials and detracters will be forthcoming.
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Department of Homeland Security: American presidents have before now referred to the US as "the nation" or "the republic," and to the nation's policies as "domestic."

By 1930 Nazi propagandists referred to Germany not as "the nation" or "the republic" - which it was - but rather as "the Heimat" - "the Homeland"

"Heimat is a German word which has no satisfactory equivalent in other languages. It denoted the region where one has been born and remains rooted.... Longing to be in the Heimat causes the incurable disease of Heimweh" - Ernstine Bradley (born and raised in Germany)

After 9-11 Condi Rice and VP Cheney coined a new phrase: America is on a "war footing." Were we really at war?

Nazi leaders explained, after the Reichstag fire, that Germany, which was not actually at war, was from then on a permanent "kriegsfusz"- literally, a "war footing."

2000 Mobs of young men dressed in identical shirts shouting outside a voting center in Florida to intimidate people to stop a recount.
1930s Mobs of men dressed in identical shirts (brown shirts) stood near voting stations shouting and intimidating people.

2003 Mobs of young republicans are organized by the National Party to make bonfires and burn CD's produced by the Dixie Chicks
1930s Mobs of Brown shirts and Hitler Youth are organized by the Nazi Party to make bonfires and burn books written by those they disagreed with.

2000s The FBI being told to stop peace activists flying or boarding aircraft on orders of the White House.
1930s The German authorities were instructed to stop peace activists and other “trouble makers” at airports.

2003 When the U.S. invaded Iraq V.P. Cheney asserted we would be “greeted as liberators”.
1930s When the Nazi's invaded the Rhineland, Nazi propaganda asserted that they would be “greeted as liberators”

2000s Bush Administration using phrases such as “hiding in spider-holes”
1930's Nazi's would find their enemies “hiding in their spider-holes”

2000s The Bush administration increased security restrictions at airports. Airport security guards were forcing passengers to drink their own breast milk. Others to drink baby formula in front of all the other passengers
1930s One of Mussolini's intimidation tactics was to force citizens to drink body fluids and emetics in public. The Nazi's followed suit with breast milk and urine in front of the other passengers.

2001 USA Patriot Act let federal officials compel doctors to hand over confidential medical records without a warrant showing probable cause.
1930s German doctors were required to disclose citizens previously private medical records to the state.

2005 Guantanamo prisoners reported seeing the Koran being flushed down toilets.
1938 the Gestapo forced Jews to scrub out toilets with their sacred phylacteries, the tfillin.

2004 Amnesty International reports US interrogators tormented prisoners by playing heavy metal at top volume day and night.
1930s 1938 the Gestapo interrogators tormented prisoners by playing music on the radio at top volume day and night.

2004 Iraqi human rights group complained that in 2004 the US forces seized the innocent wives of suspected insurgents and held the women hostage to pressure their husbands to turn themselves in.
1930s In Stalinist Russia, the secret police seized the innocent wives of suspected dissidents and held the women hostage to pressure their husbands to turn themselves in.

2003 The Bush White House “embedded” reporters with U.S. Military units in Iraq. Uncritical coverage of the war expanded considerably.
1930s Nazi propaganda officials embedded reporters and camera crews with their armed forces. U.S reporters drove with German units into France.

2003 The Bush administration unloads coffins of dead American soldiers from planes at night and has forbidden photographs being taken of them.
1930s The Nazi's unloaded the coffins of German military dead only at night and no photographs were allowed.

2001 Paid informants having received hundreds of thousands of dollars found a “sleeper cell” in Lodi, California. The two men explained later that they had confessed to the imaginary “sleeper cell” to end the terrifying series of interrogations.
1930s Stalin invented “Sleeper cells” and had paid informants find them among the general public. Stalin said that the US Government was planting the sleepers so that one day they could all rise up and create mayhem

2005 “Sleeper cell” was a term most Americans were unfamiliar with until a TV movie in 2005
1930s Stalins “sleeper cells” Made sure the general population were alerted to the threat, made everyone suspicious, of everyone.

2006 a terrorist plot against US bound planes uncovered in London gave the world a much quoted sound bite “ If this had actually happened the world would have stood still”
1930s After Hitler had set up his plan for world domination said that if everything happens as planned “the world will stand and hold it's breath”

2006 At first the only people held at Guantanamo Cuba were brown skinned foreigners, in October 2006 that changed and white English speaking prisoners began to appear. They had been charged with treason, espionage, subversion and aiding the enemy
1930s At first the Germans arrested only the Communists and criminals and enemies of the state and placed them in concentration camps. But is was not long before he turned his attention to a group long held as potential spy's and subversives the Jews.

2007 The White House by May 2007 had started to criminalize free speech in new ways. Journalists have been arrested and released after a warning, editors are being treated the same way.
1930s Germany started to crack down on anyone who did not agree with the Nazi philosophy. Journalists were arrested and released after a warning, editors were treated the same way. Anyone criticizing the Nazi party or any official of the party was subject to arrest, torture, and trial not in a German court but by tribunal outside the normal judicial system
Interesting read.. But wait for the fallout...
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I've been trying to point this out to people but it falls on deaf ears and all they can do is hate George Bush and overlook anything Obama does.
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After two right turns and an extreme left turn the "sub" is back on the original heading, to tyranny and taxation. We do see that. Vote em out or drag em out.
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Thank you Deersniper for not copying and pasting the whole damn original thread !!

Interesting OP I must say.
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