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11-02-2009, 12:28 AM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pacific Northwest
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| Have You Stirred the Herd Lately?
Tell us about any interesting instances of disturbing the sheeple, during your daily activities, by talking to them about guns, the economy, the banksters, or the latest "Change." Most of us just talk to our "safe" friends or "like thinking" acquaintances. I think it's good to raise their (the sheeple) level of awareness every once in a while. Recently, I was talking with a neighbor who stopped in front of my lawn as he was walking his dog. He asked what I was doing this weekend. Among other things, I told him I was going to go to the gun range to practice shooting. I had hoped to start a conversation about shooting sports. He got a bit fidgity and said he had to get going, because his dog was hungry. I guess I won't be counting on his help during a SHTF scenario. Hmmmmmmmm.  What have you observed when you made sheeple aware of your firearm proclivities, or any of the other topics we discuss here?
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11-02-2009, 10:26 AM
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Out here, we get good responses to our obviously conservative statements. I only know one fella here who boasts of voting for Obama. We just smile, and treat him gently, because we take care of our mentally challenged citizens, rather than locking them up in asylums! LMAO!!!!!
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11-02-2009, 10:34 AM
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Actually, I fly with all kinds of people from all different parts of the world and nationalities and backgrounds. While there are some bona-fide Bush haters, overall I've found EVERYONE to be in complete agreement that the Obamination and his administration has been a complete and total unmitigated train wreck. This includes those who believe that the gov't should provide health care--they look at the BS that's come out and say "what the hell are you guys doing--if you want to provide health care why don't you get a handle on lawsuits and build hospitals and train doctors." Even my more liberal or socialistic thinking European friends they think hussein's a joke and an incompetent spineless appeaser (who's taking down other countries by his reckless spending and destruction of the Dollar). They're getting tired of his empty pompous speeches. As far as guns, they really don't think one way or the other--we all seem to agree that it is up to the Soverign nation to decide and that one nation shouldn't tell another how to conduct its business (it's funny how they scoff at obama's wayward concept of "globalization" as well -- most believe he has no idea what he's talking about and the weird notions of apology and self-flagillation serve only to underscore the complete incompetence of the man and underlying psychological issues with the Obamination). Some of the folks from the gun-ban or gun-control countries usually say (when we talk about how it is relatively easy to buy a gun here) "boy, I wish we could do that." In fact, alot of the Singapore and Filipino folks are quite into the technical details of shooting (and some talk proudly about how good a rifle shot they were) but are mostly 1911 or M16 fans. My friends who were under the rule of the FSU in their earlier life kind of sigh and say "it kinds of sucks I have to live through this twice--I don't know why the U.S. seems so determined to pursue a path which we proved did not work and couldn't learn from our mistakes." I find most people locally have a basic consensus on American rights -- while we don't agree on everything we all agree on God and Guns (or the right to defend oneself) as well as that of Liberty and Freedom. If the subject of guns comes up it usually is a more "whatcha got" or "wheredoya shoot" kind of thing. If anything, the current regime has made folks around here treasure liberty more (and buy more guns and ammo !).
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11-02-2009, 11:47 AM
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| Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York
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Most of the sheeple I run across get nervous when you start talking about guns. Occasionally I'll bait them by saying that firearms safety training like Eddie Eagle ought to be mandatory in elementary schools; and starting in intermediate school the kids ought to learn how to shoot .22s; and when they get to high school they ought to learn to shoot centerfire rifles and .22 pistols. My argument is by training the kids, not only are they taught firearms safety but guns are de-mystified. They won't think of them as magic wands that cure adolescent troubles the way the two idiots at Columbine thought, or the way the gangstas think of guns. Honestly, I enjoy watching the sheeple squirm because when you present the points in a normal tone of voice and rationally, they really can't do anything but fall back on the "But guns is E-V-I-L" argument, and they realize how pathetic that sounds. Knowledge is never good or evil in and of itself; it's what people DO with the knowledge that is good or evil. |
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11-02-2009, 12:20 PM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Peoples Repooblik of Kaliforniastan.
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Sometimes I get some strange looks when talking about shooting and mention that everyone in my family has their own weapons and shoots, including my 11 and 14yr old daughters. I'm usually asked about safety concerns. My reply is "My kids are far less likely to have an accident than most adults due to the fact they're familiar with firearms". Last week: My 14yr olds literature class was talking about a recent version of "Romeo and Juliette" and how they killed themselves with a firearm. Their teacher who is from England went off on an anti-gun spiel that he's "uncomfortable around guns" and "guns are evil" and "people shouldn't be allowed to have them". My Daughter (9th grade) asked him "What if someone broke in to your house, raped your daughter and stole everything you own while holding you at gunpoint?" He replied "I would be sad for my daughter if that happened." She said the whole class climbed him up and down about "cowardice" and that protecting ones family is their responsibility (I guess my daughter was very vocal over the issue). She kept up with "Why are you in the states then?" and "What about the tripled rate of violent crime in Britain after the gun ban there?" and "Don't you think it's your responsibility to protect your family from danger by any means necessary?" She said that "Since YOU brought this up, we as a class would like some answers!" Each time he was asked a question he would reply with "I'm uncomfortable around guns and people who don't hunt, don't need them." She reminded him that the second amendment wasn't about "sports" or "hunting" it is about self defense and protection from "Tyranical government" She then remarked to him " That's why you came to the states, ISN'T it, to get away from Englands run away crime and big brother government? What's going on their is exactly why THIS country was founded and why we're allowed to have guns." apparently he had no answer for that one and apologized to the class saying "guns had no bearing or relevence on todays lesson, I'm sorry I brought this up". Talk about sticking your hand in a meat grinder! Keep in mind this is a CHARTER HIGH SCHOOL and not a public school. I suppose Mr. (name omitted) will stay away from 2A issues from now on. My daughter couldn't wait to tell me about this when she got home and she and her best friend were absolutely beaming when they walked in the door!  I could not have been more proud of her and her class. Maybe there is hope after all.BTW, I just recieved Her 1st quarter report card. She got a B+ in his class!  Last edited by Dragunov; 11-02-2009 at 12:25 PM. |
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11-02-2009, 12:40 PM
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| Young Senior Member  Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern New Mexico
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I rode my bike to school wearing a balaclava (ski mask with the one big hole for the eyes) and every single person who passed by me in a car or on foot kinda just starred and didn't know what to think. I was just kinda like "it's freakin cold and I don't care what I look like!!" I usually don't create a stir about guns because pretty much everyone I talk to out here likes them. At least the people I have talked to.
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11-02-2009, 06:06 PM
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The only sheeple I really know are kids who have hardcore democratic parents...usually from out of state. Growing up in a smaller Texas town there aren't many people who aren't conservatives, the only people here who support (doubt most of them voted) Obama support him for the "cool" factor, and when you ask why they like him they'll give an answer like "Shoooo....dawg, he's black" or a "Iunno, gringo". I don't usually try to impose my views on these people, just try to make them see how stupid they see...frankly, I don't think they care. Unfortunately, my mom is a democrat, gets pretty tough when you want to add another stick to the collection. |
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11-03-2009, 01:08 AM
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Hehehehe I have caused furor in another forum i belong to. it's a non gun-related forum... full of vegetarians and vegans. They really don't like me posting pics of me holding a gun, and i won't go there what happened when i answered a question about the intended use of said gun. I won't lie if i'm asked if i will hunt. I've even had words with the moderator because i'm using the same avatar i have here. I was asked if i would change it I refused under the grounds that an avatar was a reflection of a person and right now mine reflects me pretty well. The mod accepted my argument and agreed that it was not her place to judge a person for the pics posted as long as they weren't offensive. People can complain all they like but i will not be cowed to fit in with the masses by a minority. |
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11-03-2009, 06:57 AM
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| 28 Principles of Liberty  Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SE IDAHO
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Recent reflex of sheeple response, subtly raised and displayed: http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/pow...al-topics.html (Re: political topics) And, one friend and a family relation, who I though had both expressed enough comments of dissatisfaction about what's happening in America and how those happenings are having a very negative impact on our rights, liberty and freedom, recently told me in essence that they didn't want to be bothered by discussion of news about what's going on... ...because they wanted to eat, drink and be merry on the obamavoyage; to intentionally drift off course in their preoccupied world of indifference and false sense of security with the hope and change meister. Both of these people have large families which are depending on them to set the example in standing up, speaking out and trying to be prepared for the avalanche of anti-freedom/anti-American activities by the traitors of our US Constitution and other founding documents within our boarders and elsewhere that's seriously challenging our footing in freedom. However, these two examples being sited, these are examples of the exception verses the norm of late... ...most people I'm associating and talking with, across a broad section of differing view points and activities, are waking up from their cozy slumber and "I cant' be bothered with the realities of our day" indifference attitudes and actions in a startled trauma. They are jumping to their feet in horror of what they are learning and can't believe they've not caught on sooner...
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11-03-2009, 07:03 AM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fort Lauderdale
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My Neighbors all know I have guns, maybe why they dont let their dogs crap in my yard.
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11-03-2009, 08:07 AM
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I work for an international company, and whenever the foreigners come in we always take them shooting. They love it, its a treat most of them don't get to enjoy at their home. I would say their curiosity overwhelms any fear that they have had beat into them by the non-sense people. The last couple guys that came over were from the UK. They had a blast.
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11-03-2009, 11:43 AM
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My friend and I have infected some people with the Black Rifle Flu or the "AR Bug" as we call it .... After taking some friends shooting and such we have peaked an interest and so far we have gotten four people interested enough to get their own AR15s and we have three more in the process of looking. I also helped to get a few more interested in handguns as well. Or more interested than they already were. TACAV -> Arming Responsible Americans One Citizen at a Time. 
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11-03-2009, 11:46 AM
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11-03-2009, 02:55 PM
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I have a few gun-owning buddies here at work, but the majority 'have no need for guns'...... I have tried to talk to a few about preparing for SHTFday - but they aren't into it - they believe the Goobermint Hype. One guy used the old line about coming to my house if the balloon goes up - I told him he DOESN'T have the password, and to smile for the scope. He backed off the idea.  So many folks just do NOT prepare for any emergency. 
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11-03-2009, 03:23 PM
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11-03-2009, 03:24 PM
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11-03-2009, 06:00 PM
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We are surrounded by like minded gun nuts, so no worry here.  There is one neighbor who gets worried whenever she hears a bunch of shooting...but that's all. All my relatives are Republican and support gun rights. Even my [somewhat liberal?] grandmother supports gun rights. She even gave me her husbands Browning 12 gauge after he passed away (awesome gun BTW). |
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11-03-2009, 07:27 PM
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I try to be discrete about who I talk to about my guns...because I'm not usually concerned about that person but who they might tell and then who that person might also tell, etc. My interest is in avoiding having someone break into my home with intents of stealing for my guns.
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11-03-2009, 07:34 PM
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When i talk about my guns, i always talk about getting out in the great outdoors with them, and how its a great method of recreational stress relief. Most people can relate to that as a form of just plain getting out and breaking up the duldrums of everyday BS, such as work. Also how much fun it is to research the old ones i run across, just like some people do with antiques of all kinds.
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