11-04-2009, 08:35 AM
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#21 | | Resident Curmudgeon
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| Unfortunately, he lost to the Democrat, 49% to 45%. That split with the Republicans in the 23rd District hurt. If the Republican Party had gotten behind him from the start, he'd probably have beaten Owens. The key factor as I see it was that the Republican who withdrew, Scozzafava, pulled 6% of the vote despite her withdrawal according to the AP.
Now, this may be yet another argument that third party candidates only hurt candidates of the two established parties. I'm not sure. It was the "third party candidate" who narrowly lost to Owens, not the Republican candidate. I will admit that the fact the Republicans couldn't agree on a platform was what cost Hoffman the election, which is why he ran as a Conservative; but that's as far as I'll go.
Oh yes: our non-friend Bloomberg squeaked back in as mayor of New York City. The local news stations say that he spent the most money ever for a local election in American history. I read somewhere that the amount he spent to win by 5 percentage points was something on the order of $10 million per percentage point. That's a lot of propaganda money by anybody's standards, and I'd call it a poor return on investment. Final tally was 51% Bloomberg, 46% Thompson. Not what you'd call a mandate from the people of New York City.
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Reason: add NYC results
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11-04-2009, 09:44 AM
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#22 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by Rambo | I'd like to see change for NJ with Christie. Let's see if he will be a friend to the sportsmen and women of his state. If this election night proves to be a bad omen for Obama, it really has to put Sarah Palin in bad light. The only candidate she campaigned for lost. She appears to be poison for Conservative candidates as well. | what did the NRA grade Cristie regarding guns and 2nd Amendment??? NJ is too far gone regarding guns, the statehouse only makes it harder to own firearms, and the only thing he can do as govenor is veto.
i cannot remember if NJ ever did a pro-gun law, or rescind any of its draconian laws.
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11-04-2009, 10:02 AM
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#23 | | Firearm Zealot
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America, keep on womping em. All the Fools on the Hill are toxic, they are a dirty diaper.
They ram socialistic health care down our throats in 09, we will ram it up their backside in 2010!
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11-04-2009, 04:18 PM
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#24 | | Resident Curmudgeon
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| Why does this action by Obama not surprise me?
The official line from Obama's lackeys is that the reason the Democrats got their asses kicked at the polls in Virginia and New Jersey yesterday was that "the voters were voting on local issues, issues that had nothing to do with the President."
Uh-huh. Right. Sure. How, then, do the Obamists explain that in the voters' own words, 40% of exit-polled voters who classify themselves as independents voted against the Democrats as an expression of disapproval and no confidence in Obama's administration? It was the Annoying One's ability to swing the independents his way that won the clown the 2008 election, after all. Now, it looks like the rose colored glasses have fallen from the eyes of the independent voters, and they are seeing things in the cold light of day - and don't much like what they see.
Here's the article: White House distances itself from losses - More politics- msnbc.com
The official line from the Obama White House does not surprise me at all. Obama puts me in mind of Frank Burns from M*A*S*H a great deal of the time. In reference to Burns, Trapper John McIntyre once observed that "Whenever one of Frank's patients dies, it's either 'God's Will' or somebody else's fault." Obama did some fairly serious stumping for the two failed Democratic candidates. Their failure is at least in part his failure too. As I said in the original post, bye-elections like these may not be the court of public opinion passing judgment on Obama's administration of the United States, the way the midterm and general elections are; but it certainly looks like the grand jury of public opinion just returned a true bill against him.
Let's hope that this time next year we'll all be celebrating a nationwide Democratic Party ass-kicking, with a verdict of "Examined and rejected" on Obama himself, and his policies too.
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11-04-2009, 05:57 PM
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#25 | | Firearm Zealot
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great. some states have swapped their puppet mouthpieces. it doesn't matter what letter they have in front of the name. they were bought by business. (banks and Corporations)
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Reason: banks and corps. clarification of business.
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11-04-2009, 06:40 PM
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#26 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by Heavy shooter | This is just a sneak preview of what is to come next November if the Demorats keep on the path they are on now. | I really hope that is going to be true!!!
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11-04-2009, 07:40 PM
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#27 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by petrol | great. some states have swapped their puppet mouthpieces. it doesn't matter what letter they have in front of the name. they were bought by business. | I wouldn't even mind if they were bought by real business! They have been bought by banksters.
Let's make a fundamental distinction, here. "Business" is the application of investments to an idea that brings improved goods and services to the market place in exchange for money. Both Small and Corporate businesses fall into this category, and are beneficial to the American way of life.
Banksters, on the other hand, are leaches and parasites that take your investment money, and give you nothing in return. They then "loan" this money to governments, to fund their wars, and charge the people of the waring nations for the privilege. They charge the governments usurious interest rates, to keep the payments rolling in, and to keep the sheeple enslaved as serfs of the government.
Sorry about the side track, there, but I get tired of the ignorant people bashing "business" without a clue as to what business has done to create the greatest life style on planet Earth. The perversions of "business" are all due to government and bankster intervention in the economy, based on substituting "paper" for real money.
If you want to make REAL political change in this country, quit voting for the same old Column A or Column B criminals. DEMAND a return to the Gold Standard, and hold the government accountable to a real budget. Get the government OUT of businesses' business.
THAT will turn things around in this country.
Voting for Demoncraps or Republikkers will not.
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11-04-2009, 08:13 PM
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#28 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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11-04-2009, 08:35 PM
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#29 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by petrol | it doesn't matter what letter they have in front of the name. they were bought by business. (banks and Corporations) | I would dare say that this would be anyone employed....
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11-04-2009, 08:56 PM
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#30 | | Firearm Zealot
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Business, Banks, they are all the same. They get too big and too powerful and we get what we have now. You think Rupert Murdoch, Bill Gates, the head of Monsanto, and a host of others that we can't even name care about you?
I'm not talking about the guy running the pizza store on the corner, or the dude with the paint store down the street, the furniture maker with 12 employees. I'm talking business that has transcended national borders. these men and women see you as cattle, you work to buy the trinkets, there are always more trinkets to buy so you work more, the wages go down or the jobs go away, It makes no difference to them.
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11-04-2009, 08:59 PM
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#31 | | Firearm Zealot
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11-05-2009, 10:39 AM
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#32 | | Firearm Zealot
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| Nice poignant cartoon, SNS!
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11-05-2009, 12:13 PM
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#33 | | Freedom Zealot
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I love that cartoon !! Says it all !!
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11-05-2009, 02:07 PM
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#34 | | Firearm Zealot
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Obama is still in the White House today. I guess the sky isn't falling.
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11-05-2009, 04:48 PM
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#35 | | God, Guns, Glory
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| Rambo wrote : Obama is still in the White House today. I guess the sky isn't falling.
Not the sky.
Only America's Independence!
The "NEW" White House!
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11-05-2009, 05:17 PM
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#36 | | Resident Curmudgeon
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I don't agree with that photoshopped photo.
In my opinion, it would look a lot more like Obama's White House if it had either a wall around it and onion domes showing; or perhaps a replica of the Brandenberg Gate down the street, with long red banners with the Obama campaign logo on them draped on the walls of the White House. Hey, if you're going to be offensive...
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11-05-2009, 05:28 PM
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#37 | | Love Your Firearms!
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Originally Posted by Rambo | Obama is still in the White House today. I guess the sky isn't falling. | Yup, the sky isn't falling, but there are 2 less liberal Dems governing states. We will have to wait until the next election for Obama to leave the White House.
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11-05-2009, 05:29 PM
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#38 | | Love Your Firearms!
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Originally Posted by SightNSqueeze Look at this cartoon!!! Which jackass has bigger ears?????
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11-05-2009, 05:47 PM
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#39 | | Firearm Zealot
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| Election analysis
As I was interested in learning, Obama's base of younger, lower earning people abandoned the election.
So, one can argue the point that it was no so much that Republicans won as a matter of Obama having a former very large base abandoning the Democrats largely by simply refusing to vote.
Now, we are still in need of intellectual conservative candidates of the center right to win next year and three years down the road.
On a positive note, I do not feel Obama can win back the younger, lower earning base group as he has abandoned them by continuing to go the Bush2 route of big money for big business when people need help.
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11-05-2009, 05:55 PM
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#40 | | CERTIFIABLE GUN NUT
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Originally Posted by grizcty Rambo wrote : Obama is still in the White House today. I guess the sky isn't falling.
Not the sky.
Only America's Independence!
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Now wait, I had gotten this picture emailed to me and I thought this is what the White House was suppose to look like down the road?
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