If what he is saying about the lawsuit is true and this mod is safe. Then this might be some really good news to all the Sigma owners out there.
Excuse the silliness at the beginning. He gets serious real quick.
Pontiac, thanks for posting this. I'm not sure that I'd want to remove that spring from my SW Sigma 9VE, because the trigger pull does not bother me. However, he did show me something there, and I appreciate your posting this info. You're right. His video would have been much better without the profanity throughout. I wonder if he knows how to speak without it. But....thanks much.
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Glock has different disconnectors which either decrease trigger pull to 3.5 lbs or increase trigger pulls to 8.5 or so lbs (the NY-1 I believe but am not sure).
I would be REALLY careful in modifying trigger pulls of newer "DAO" guns on ones' own (i.e. guns without a safety) if they are going to be used for defensive work. I'd get a qualified gunsmith to do it; especially if the heavy trigger pull was designed by the manufacturer as part of the inherent safety of a gun.
Mas Ayoob makes some excellent points in his book "combat handgunnery" about the perils of modifying triggers or disabling safeties. Although I don't live my life in the "what if" liability world I can see how a prosecutor or plaintiff's lawyer could make a big deal about a self-engineered "hair trigger" on a gun you were carrying for defensive use--whether it was a factor in the shooting or not.
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Glock has different disconnectors which either decrease trigger pull to 3.5 lbs or increase trigger pulls to 8.5 or so lbs (the NY-1 I believe but am not sure).
I would be REALLY careful in modifying trigger pulls of newer "DAO" guns on ones' own (i.e. guns without a safety) if they are going to be used for defensive work. I'd get a qualified gunsmith to do it; especially if the heavy trigger pull was designed by the manufacturer as part of the inherent safety of a gun.
Mas Ayoob makes some excellent points in his book "combat handgunnery" about the perils of modifying triggers or disabling safeties. Although I don't live my life in the "what if" liability world I can see how a prosecutor or plaintiff's lawyer could make a big deal about a self-engineered "hair trigger" on a gun you were carrying for defensive use--whether it was a factor in the shooting or not.
I agree. There could be terrific liability from a modified handgun used in a life or death situation. The SW Sigmas don't have a safety as is, so I'd hate to cause some mishap by making the trigger more reactive. And you know the trigger pull still doesn't bother me, although I know I am the oddity here because it's bothered almost everyone I've talked to about it.
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The person is right, Glock sued Smith and Wesson for 7 different patent violations. Smith and Wesson had to pay Glock and I think that for every Sigma sold, money went to Glock. You could actually switch barrels with the pistols. I have heard that people were putting Sigma barrels in Glocks to make them a bit more accurate. Good point about the liability though. I thought that I could improve the trigger on a gun that could be had for a good price, but not so sure now. I is ascared of the lawyer folk.
I understand where you guys are coming from. I just don't see how it's any different than putting a lighter spring on your trigger, modified is modified . I don't currently have a Sigma but would like to in the future. As many complaints as I've heard about the trigger from their owners. I thought this might be a quick easy fix, if it was safe.
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I will go for anything that gives me better trigger control and yet is safe.However this one I would check carefully,including several drop tests. ,,,sam.
I will go for anything that gives me better trigger control and yet is safe.However this one I would check carefully,including several drop tests. ,,,sam.
Agree, Sam. Dropping or other accidental discharge would worry me. But I see where Pontiac is coming from.
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Not an expert, but after doing the mod, I can't tell much difference in the trigger pull. If there is nothing else that the spring does, then it seems to me that it ought to be safe to remove it.
Again, not an expert, but how do you do a drop test without doing some damage to the pistol?
I'm with woody on post #2. I've shot the S9ve and while the pull is long, once you get used to it, especially if this is your cc gun, you allow for it. I have shot a few magazines through the Sigma and generally it was quite accurate once I adjusted to the pull. Quick firing worked best for me.
