Ft Hood Tx. 7 dead 12 wounded

Mr. 22 · 11-06-2009, 02:23 AM

I wish the media and everyone on this forum would not even mention the basterd's name. I really believe that they do it for the fame (or infamy).

I believe that this type of violence would cease and desist if the media would not report names of the a**holes that think they can get their 15 minutes, OK, a lot more in these type of cases...!

That's why they do it!

Please everybody stop with the, "I just found out his name", "Oh they got his name wrong", who gives a flying f***?? Murder these people in total anonymity. What better way to hurt them besides an execution?

grizcty · 11-06-2009, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 22

I wish the media and everyone on this forum would not even mention the basterd's name. I really believe that they do it for the fame (or infamy).

I believe that this type of violence would cease and desist if the media would not report names of the a**holes that think they can get their 15 minutes, OK, a lot more in these type of cases...!

That's why they do it!

Please everybody stop with the, "I just found out his name", "Oh they got his name wrong", who gives a flying f***?? Murder these people in total anonymity. What better way to hurt them besides an execution?

I TOTALLY DISAGREE!!

I want to see their names on every newspaper & on every TV screen!

IN BIG BOLD PRINT!

Lets have a real REALITY TV SHOW!

Called EXECUTION NIGHT, every Friday night!

Starring murderers, rapists, terrorists, and low life's.
Giving them 15 minutes of fame.
Audience gets to select method: Hanging, firing squad, or electric chair!
Good way to save taxpayers money, and clear out death row!

sea_chicken1 · 11-06-2009, 03:00 AM

Guns are already banned on navy bases with the exception of a few hunting areas where your weapon must be registered and approved. In the base housing rules all you guns must be registered and locked in a safe and your ammo locked in a safe at opposite ends of the house. It also states to follow local state and federal laws but right under that says you cant ever carry a loaded firearm even with a permit. The military is always the first to test draconian laws before the public.

Rambo · 11-06-2009, 05:59 AM

We'll know more in the next few days like why did a psychiatrist have acccess to a firearm when those around him didn't? Personal weapon maybe? The FBI is now looking at postings by this Major on websites as to his beliefs on suicide attacks. How sad that someone didn't have access to a weapon as well and ended this shooting before so many were killed and wounded.

White Rook · 11-06-2009, 07:17 AM

I hope they hang him and then wrap him in bacon and bury him in a unmarked grave.

I am so sick of hearing about some of our military members not wanting to do the job they signed up to do. "Oh I wanted to join and get money to further my education but I don't want to be deployed". He wasn't Drafted and he didn't join the Cub Scouts. May he burn in hell....

gbear-48 · 11-06-2009, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ballbearing

Hel-lo-o! The terrorists started this war by flying hijacked passenger jets into the World Trade Center and Pentagon, and let's not forget the crater they left in a farm field in Pennsylvania! Just WHO is the agressor here? That's right, THE MUSLIMS ARE!

Since the the topic is murdering traitor scumbags.
As far as I know , Tim MacVey still gets dishonorable mention for holding the US record in that catagory.
The mentality is pretty much the same: Don't like something ?
Just murder a bunch of Americans -- that 'll make it all better.

Same crap , different day , just a lower body count. The real enemy's name is murdering bigoted extremist scum -- everything else is just details.

BTW, 'terps who are native speakers of some languages --who look like most of us and go by the same Book as most of us -- are really , really hard to find.

SightNSqueeze · 11-06-2009, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sea_chicken1

Guns are already banned on navy bases with the exception of a few hunting areas where your weapon must be registered and approved. In the base housing rules all you guns must be registered and locked in a safe and your ammo locked in a safe at opposite ends of the house. It also states to follow local state and federal laws but right under that says you cant ever carry a loaded firearm even with a permit. The military is always the first to test draconian laws before the public.

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Originally Posted by Rambo

We'll know more in the next few days like why did a psychiatrist have acccess to a firearm when those around him didn't? Personal weapon maybe? The FBI is now looking at postings by this Major on websites as to his beliefs on suicide attacks. How sad that someone didn't have access to a weapon as well and ended this shooting before so many were killed and wounded.

The gun storage rules aboard Navy and Marine bases, and I assume the other services as well are really not that bad considering there was a time when "all" personally owned weapons had to be kept in an armory. Today, that rule only applies to "single" personnel living in the BEQ/BOQs due to lack of secure storage. Too bad they can't have a safe room in the NCOs duty office which would have been manned 24/7 in the old days. The big problem is that CCW laws and vehicle carry laws have not been extended to military bases unless the person is going to and from a range or to hunt on base.

gbear-48 · 11-06-2009, 08:09 AM

This very ugly incident might ( maybe ) be the wake-up call. There has been so much bloodshed in "Gun Free" helpless victim zones. Schools , malls , churchs -- and now a military base.
Lots of people , including people who will never own a personal gun , are beginning to see the blinding flashes of the obvious.

TXplt · 11-06-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SightNSqueeze

The gun storage rules aboard Navy and Marine bases, and I assume the other services as well are really not that bad considering there was a time when "all" personally owned weapons had to be kept in an armory. Today, that rule only applies to "single" personnel living in the BEQ/BOQs due to lack of secure storage. Too bad they can't have a safe room in the NCOs duty office which would have been manned 24/7 in the old days. The big problem is that CCW laws and vehicle carry laws have not been extended to military bases unless the person is going to and from a range or to hunt on base.

I remember going thru pilot training that, while we weren't supposed to have guns in the BOQ's, the SP's had given us a handout about base policy/AZ law about open and car carry--which at the time said it was OK on base in the car but in housing it needed to be registered and in the BOQ's stored in the armory. At the time we were full up legal on having pistols in the car on base -- I think this was also the case in the late 80's/early 90's at Shaw and most of my colleagues did keep a defensive gun in the car. When we went out locally in SC to practice FAC skills most guys would also tote a pistol -- one NCO took his own private Smith. I don't completely know if this was OK or not but personally do think it was prudent.

We lived on base housing in other bases and it wasn't too bad other than we had to register our guns. Folks would bring pistols around the squadron (or ammo) to trade or sell sometimes (or give away in the case of ammo for people going overseas where they couldn't have it).

Most army posts I know of were open posts at the time (i.e. without manned gates), but the rules for the army personnel were fairly restrictive with firearms from what I know--at least duty weapons--for a large portion of DS1 the air force guys were the only ones walking around with loaded weapons.

Local bases in TX (at my last assignment until retirement) were posted that the CHL law didn't apply (i.e. you couldn't be packing on base), but we could bring shotguns to the skeet range and such as you mentioned. The Navy bases I worked at all had a "no firearms" sign of some sort out front but I don't personally know what the consequences of carrying anyway (or having a pistol in your car) would have been. Bottom line is during the latter part of my career most bases seemed to have a fairly restrictive stated firearms policy on carry at least (something which I obviously disagree with).

From when I began until I retired I believe that all the VOQ's had a "no weapons" policy but I think this was routinely scoffed at--at least in the earlier days--most of the time when visiting friends who were traveling in their POVs or TDY I could count on seeing a cocked and locked 1911 or High Power sitting on the table. Again, prudence outweighed formalities.

It seems once again we have a tragedy with extreme carnage by an evil person in an area where carrying was banned or highly restricted. Again, sure wouldn't have seen this coming with an officer and doctor but I guess evil comes in all shapes and colors. We should pray for the survivors and families.

And not forget it is prudent to CCW ALL the time EVERYWHERE you can -- just like a seat belt or other piece of safety equipment. You never know when you might be in an accident just like you never know where a bad thug or evil individual might strike. If something like this could happen in a relatively secure setting to some of America's finest citizens caused by a wholly terrible perpetrator it could happen somewhere else as well.

woody1981 · 11-06-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GlockMeister

^^^ Yep. And if I remember correctly, didn't one go on a rampage in Iraq? ^^^

And/or isn't that the one you're thinking of woody?

Yes, he's the one, Glock. Thanks.

woody1981 · 11-06-2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by squirrelblaster

umm me, and for that matter most of the non racist community.....
im not trying to start a fight here but racial profiling is by defenition racism.......
treating one race diffrently and with suspition...... that racism......
that being said i hope they hang this guy...... after a fair military trial......
by the way.... what happened to/with the other 2 guys they where/are holding as suspects?

We are probably almost all against profiling strictly by "race," but not against the concept of profiling with all elements included, where race/ethnicity can be a potential contributing factor to an action.

blueice · 11-06-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by privateer

I would tell you how I really feel about That Piece of S**t Haji . But the Moderators would have to Ban me...... God I am so pissed

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Originally Posted by CalifgirlinOk

My heart goes out to the families of the men/women who lost their lives.I'm sick to my stomach!!!

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Originally Posted by squirrelblaster

last i heard it was 13 dead and up to 30 wounded......... is that the most current numbers of dead and wounded?

i think i feel most sorry for the family of these men....... this is just horiffic.

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Originally Posted by grizcty

12 dead, 31 hurt!

They need to make a example out of him.
And execute this fella!

BTW - the Girl who, they believe shot him, is in stable condition.
Keep her and the other victims in your prayers!

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So, now, the Left wing nuts will be demanding that they ban guns on Army Bases!

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Originally Posted by White Rook

I hope they hang him and then wrap him in bacon and bury him in a unmarked grave.

Ditoes to all of the above! Please, every keep the families of the die and wounded in your prayers!!

Lets make America a Muslim free zone....

Oh, rest assured there is more to come....I can not wait for Muslim (

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) non-responses...I am sure CARE will speak on behalf of the victims...

LarryO1970 · 11-06-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by White Rook

I hope they hang him and then wrap him in bacon and bury him in a unmarked grave.

I am so sick of hearing about some of our military members not wanting to do the job they signed up to do. "Oh I wanted to join and get money to further my education but I don't want to be deployed". He wasn't Drafted and he didn't join the Cub Scouts. May he burn in hell....

'I hope they hang him and then wrap him in bacon and bury him in a unmarked grave.'

... my sentiments exactly White Rook. This man is nothing more than a coward who betrayed the men and women he served with.

... further information as follows :

... what is largely being ignored is that Hasan was a devout Muslim. An internet post in his name earlier this year compared suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save their comrades. A former colleague, Col. Terry Lee, recalls Hasan arguing “Muslims have the right to rise up against the U.S. military.”

... Hasan passed out Korans the morning of the attack and “donated his furniture to anyone who would take it." This certainly appears to be the actions of someone preparing for martyrdom.

... survivors of the attack said Hasan shouted “Allahu Akbar” before opening fire.

... personally, I feel betrayed by this man. Brothers in arms are just that ... this man has betrayed all of us in uniform past and present.

... I hope and pray to God this is not followed by copy-cats across the nation.

Larry O

Rambo · 11-06-2009, 11:58 AM

It seems the shooter was himself shot 4 times by a Ft. Hood police officer, not MP, and a female one at that, after being shot herself. Hats off to this LEO.

LarryO1970 · 11-06-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambo

It seems the shooter was himself shot 4 times by a Ft. Hood police officer, not MP, and a female one at that, after being shot herself. Hats off to this LEO.

... isn't that ironic that this 'devout Muslim' was taken down by a woman ?

Sgtsquid · 11-06-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambo

It seems the shooter was himself shot 4 times by a Ft. Hood police officer, not MP, and a female one at that, after being shot herself. Hats off to this LEO.

Kimberly Munley was shot twice herself but returned fire hitting the p.o.s. four times. She is recovering well.

Kaybe · 11-06-2009, 02:03 PM

This is nothing more than domestic terrorism. The DC sniper was Muslim, A driver who drove into a crowd a couple of years ago was Muslim, A muslim US soldier attacked his own people a couple of years ago in Iraq, and now this. This guy was diciplined for proselytizing his patients and co workers a while back. The media will play this as someone who got picked on, but this is terrorism, on US soil. NOW. Check out today's Jihad Watch on line and get the history on this piece of garbage. The fight is against Radical Islam, not all muslims. You can believe what you want, but when your beliefs tell you to kill others who don't believe like you do, it is time to take you down, hard! Feed this dirtbad to some pigs, don't waste the bacon.

squirrelblaster · 11-06-2009, 02:48 PM

[QUOTE= The fight is against Radical Islam, not all muslims. .[/QUOTE]

thank you!!! for a while there i didnt think anyone here knew the diffrence!!

GlockMeister · 11-06-2009, 02:59 PM

Seems as if the insensitivity I saw by our President didn't go totally unnoticed.

When I was watching Fox they had said they were waiting for President Obama to comment on the tragedy. They made sure to mention that the White House had been getting constant updates to the situation.

Then, when he finally came out, and this is where I noticed and wondered why he was saying what he was, instead of comment right a way, he decided to give introductions and thanks? Read about it here. Someone , NBC NO LESS, finally put what I was thinking in print. lol

Obama's Frightening Insensitivity Following Shooting | NBC Chicago

I think he is indeed disconnected and this for me is just another indication that he isn't all that concerned or respectful of our military? Another sign, him not listening to his commander/s that he himself put in charge. Sure, he has a right to consider ALL possibilities and recommendations, but taking as much time as he has has only put our troops in more danger then they already are...

gbear-48 · 11-06-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by squirrelblaster

thank you!!! for a while there i didnt think anyone here knew the diffrence!!

Yeah.
There seemed to be a rash Un-Americanism there for a while. That Major at Hood just shot at US uniforms , he didn't check anybody's file for home of record or religious preference.
Same thing with the Little Rock recruiting station murderer.
For our Muslim allies , this kind of murdering traitor is part of the terrain -- been that way since A/Q assasinated the military leader of the Northern Alliance in 2001.

ETA: One of the lessons learned that might ( maybe ) come out of the Fort Hood incident:
Public safety demands that more attention be paid to violent extremist BS on the net.
Just a thought.

11-06-2009, 02:23 AM	#41
Mr. 22 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Idaho Posts: 366	You know what I would like to see?? I wish the media and everyone on this forum would not even mention the basterd's name. I really believe that they do it for the fame (or infamy). I believe that this type of violence would cease and desist if the media would not report names of the aholes that think they can get their 15 minutes, OK, a lot more in these type of cases...! That's why they do it! Please everybody stop with the, "I just found out his name", "Oh they got his name wrong", who gives a flying f?? Murder these people in total anonymity.* What better way to hurt them besides an execution? __________________ You make a noise, Mr. Forty-Four makes a noise & his six little friends run a lot faster than you do

11-06-2009, 05:59 AM	#44
Rambo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 2,319	We'll know more in the next few days like why did a psychiatrist have acccess to a firearm when those around him didn't? Personal weapon maybe? The FBI is now looking at postings by this Major on websites as to his beliefs on suicide attacks. How sad that someone didn't have access to a weapon as well and ended this shooting before so many were killed and wounded. __________________ I live to hunt and hunt to live.

11-06-2009, 07:17 AM	#45
White Rook Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: South West Ohio Posts: 2,110	I hope they hang him and then wrap him in bacon and bury him in a unmarked grave. I am so sick of hearing about some of our military members not wanting to do the job they signed up to do. "Oh I wanted to join and get money to further my education but I don't want to be deployed". He wasn't Drafted and he didn't join the Cub Scouts. May he burn in hell.... __________________ USAF SSgt 80-86 IN GOD WE TRUST NRA MEMBER

11-06-2009, 11:58 AM	#54
Rambo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 2,319	It seems the shooter was himself shot 4 times by a Ft. Hood police officer, not MP, and a female one at that, after being shot herself. Hats off to this LEO. __________________ I live to hunt and hunt to live.

11-06-2009, 02:03 PM	#57
Kaybe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northcentral Ohio Posts: 641	This is nothing more than domestic terrorism. The DC sniper was Muslim, A driver who drove into a crowd a couple of years ago was Muslim, A muslim US soldier attacked his own people a couple of years ago in Iraq, and now this. This guy was diciplined for proselytizing his patients and co workers a while back. The media will play this as someone who got picked on, but this is terrorism, on US soil. NOW. Check out today's Jihad Watch on line and get the history on this piece of garbage. The fight is against Radical Islam, not all muslims. You can believe what you want, but when your beliefs tell you to kill others who don't believe like you do, it is time to take you down, hard! Feed this dirtbad to some pigs, don't waste the bacon. __________________ Some people are alive simply because it is illegal to kill them.

11-06-2009, 03:00 AM	#43
sea_chicken1 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Everett WA. and Norfolk VA. Posts: 1,017	Guns are already banned on navy bases with the exception of a few hunting areas where your weapon must be registered and approved. In the base housing rules all you guns must be registered and locked in a safe and your ammo locked in a safe at opposite ends of the house. It also states to follow local state and federal laws but right under that says you cant ever carry a loaded firearm even with a permit. The military is always the first to test draconian laws before the public.

11-06-2009, 08:09 AM	#48
gbear-48 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 104	This very ugly incident might ( maybe ) be the wake-up call. There has been so much bloodshed in "Gun Free" helpless victim zones. Schools , malls , churchs -- and now a military base. Lots of people , including people who will never own a personal gun , are beginning to see the blinding flashes of the obvious.

11-06-2009, 02:48 PM	#58
squirrelblaster lord of lego turtles! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,493	[QUOTE= The fight is against Radical Islam, not all muslims. .[/QUOTE] thank you!!! for a while there i didnt think anyone here knew the diffrence!! __________________ "I like Turtles!" youtube kid

11-06-2009, 02:59 PM	#59
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 9,676	Seems as if the insensitivity I saw by our President didn't go totally unnoticed. When I was watching Fox they had said they were waiting for President Obama to comment on the tragedy. They made sure to mention that the White House had been getting constant updates to the situation. Then, when he finally came out, and this is where I noticed and wondered why he was saying what he was, instead of comment right a way, he decided to give introductions and thanks? Read about it here. Someone , NBC NO LESS, finally put what I was thinking in print. lol Obama's Frightening Insensitivity Following Shooting \| NBC Chicago I think he is indeed disconnected and this for me is just another indication that he isn't all that concerned or respectful of our military? Another sign, him not listening to his commander/s that he himself put in charge. Sure, he has a right to consider ALL possibilities and recommendations, but taking as much time as he has has only put our troops in more danger then they already are... __________________ "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." "Edmond Burke"