Old 11-06-2009, 01:55 AM   #1
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Is it ok to use military surplus ammo in my Mosin M44?
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:07 AM   #2
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What else is there? Seriously, that's about ALL most people shoot in their Mosins. That's what they were MADE to shoot, right? And Mosins are what that ammo was made to shoot IN.

Just remember that the milsurp ammo has primers that leave a corrosive residue in the barrel, and the rifle will need to be cleaned real good after firing. Either pour lots of boiling water down the barrel, or use something with ammonia in it, like Windex, to neutralize the corrosive salts.

And the M44 will shoot better with the bayonet either extended or removed, it DOES make a difference everybody says.

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Old 11-06-2009, 02:34 AM   #3
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The price on the surplus makes it rather inexpensive to shoot. Heck you'll probably dislocate your shoulder before you finish a spam can. Just remember that some of the ammo is steel core, so know what is behind your target.

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Old 11-06-2009, 02:51 AM   #4
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have fun. Initially i was scared of the stuff but really as long as you keep it clean you won't have an issue. It's a lot cheaper. It is as others have said what this gun was built for.
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:39 AM   #5
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if your a lazy cleaner like me you can opt for more expensive stuff and buy Winchester or wolf gold, they have boxer primers so they are cleaner. but I haven't found mil-surplus any less accurate then newer stuff.

AND I am still waiting for a link to steel core ammo, you know just in case we are invaded by zombies with bullet proof vests.

and is this a smiley smacking one smiley and squirting its knuckle children on the other?
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Old 11-06-2009, 08:37 AM   #6
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Surplus is fine, but you have to take that extra special care to clean them after.

I use my reloads for accuracy and my Milsurp for fun.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:36 AM   #7
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Thanks guys! I'm a little tired of paying a dollar a bullet for the win ammo.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:16 AM   #8
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AND I am still waiting for a link to steel core ammo, you know just in case we are invaded by zombies with bullet proof vests.

In case of Zombies:
Surplus Ammunition 7.62x54mm Rimmed Russian 148 Grain Full Metal Jacket Corrosive Berdan Primed Steel Case Box of 880 (2 Sealed Cans of 440) - MidwayUSA

its this stuff

Bulgarian 1987 7.62x54r Steel Core Light Ball

As far as the smileys I think that's called a Beech slap, smiley better have my money.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:36 AM   #9
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Either pour lots of boiling water down the barrel, or use something with ammonia in it, like Windex, to neutralize the corrosive salts.
Boiling water may not be a good idea, as it approaches the melting point of the shellac finish.

It's commonly stated that cleaners and solvents must be used to "neutralize" the salts. This is misleading as no household chemicals are going to neutralize a salt. Instead, the salts are dissolved and removed by anything containing water, including, of course, water.
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:23 AM   #10
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it's the water.
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:31 AM   #11
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Better pricing than Midway

You you're going to order Bulgarian 54r, look at J&G. 880 rounds at Midway is $229 without delivery.

J&G will sell and ship you the same ammo for $198.

7.62x54R Bulgarian Light Ball FMJ ammo, steel case, 440 rd tins.

Also, check out surplusammo.com. They currently have Bulgarian, Czech and Hungarian 54r for better prices than Midway:

https://surplusammo.com/index.php?ma...a_filter_id=55

I just posted a thread asking for opinions on the three different rounds as I have only fired Bulgarian.

http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/mos...-vs-czech.html

Hopefully some of you wise folks will give us your experiences.
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:46 AM   #12
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my m44 shoots to the left with the bayonet closed. right on with it extended and it likes surplus ammo better than anything else, hates wolf ammo.
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:18 PM   #13
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??? how does it hate wolf ammo?
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:01 PM   #14
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so bulgarian ammo is steel core?...I saw some at my gun store it was marked 10 and 85 and has red lacquer on it.
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:52 PM   #15
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So all these links, I see the Hungarian, Bulg. or Czech...what about this stuff on CTD? Listed as Russian...Looks like a Bulgarian can... Is it the same? And what about silver tips...for what, vampires/werewolves?

AMM-653 - Ammo 7.62x54R Russian Surplus FMJBT Silver Tipped 147 Grain 440 Round Tin Can Light Ball Corrosive
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:04 PM   #16
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it's the water.
Odd. I thought Olympia Beer had trademarked that phrase. We now return to the original thread....

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Old 11-06-2009, 05:10 PM   #17
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J&G sells 7.62x54R Bulgarian Light Ball FMJ ammo, steel case, 440 rd tins.
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Price: $84.92
(BTW that's where my MN 1929 hex Ishevsk was purchased.)
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:21 PM   #18
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Thanks guys! I'm a little tired of paying a dollar a bullet for the win ammo.
Well save me those Win empties if you don't reload!
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:27 PM   #19
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Is it ok to use military surplus ammo in my Mosin M44?
If you want to read up on your M44 or any other Mosin Nagant, to see what it shoots or what kind of preformance to expect from a specal type of ammo. Try this web site, these guys realy have the info on the Mosin Nagant and the ammo it shoots.

This is the Ammunition Evaluations page (what I use most) to get to the home page for the rifle info just click on the bottom of the bullet in the upper right of the page.


7.62x54r Ammunition Evaluations
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