11-08-2009, 10:32 AM
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#21 | | Firearm Zealot
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i have done it, i started a thread much like htis one about a year ago......... although when i did it no one was around to see it...... although people did see the hole in my ceiling.............
when i called the cops they asked if anyone was hit, when i said no they then said they didnt need to know about it then lol
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11-08-2009, 11:00 AM
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#22 | | Firearm Zealot
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One reason not to carry a round in the chamber. You think you are going to need to pull a gun and fire that fast that it needs to be condition 1? Carry on an empty chamber and that wont happen.
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11-08-2009, 11:50 AM
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#23 | | Firearm Zealot
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Thanks for the support fellas.
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11-08-2009, 01:43 PM
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#24 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by M14man  | One reason not to carry a round in the chamber. You think you are going to need to pull a gun and fire that fast that it needs to be condition 1? Carry on an empty chamber and that wont happen. | YES. Why else would you carry a gun
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11-08-2009, 01:48 PM
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#25 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by M14man | One reason not to carry a round in the chamber. You think you are going to need to pull a gun and fire that fast that it needs to be condition 1? Carry on an empty chamber and that wont happen. | An unloaded gun is just an awkward club. If you carry a gun with an unloaded chamber you're a fool. 
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11-08-2009, 02:10 PM
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#26 | | Firearm Zealot
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Carried it 35 years and never found that I had to have it so ready that I didnt have time to chamber it. I don't live in fear that goonies are going to jump from the trees after me. I can rack it as fast as it comes out and I am not so afraid of my butt as to warrant live chamber. Fools cause accidents.
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11-08-2009, 10:54 PM
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#27 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by M14man | Carried it 35 years and never found that I had to have it so ready that I didnt have time to chamber it. I don't live in fear that goonies are going to jump from the trees after me. I can rack it as fast as it comes out and I am not so afraid of my butt as to warrant live chamber. Fools cause accidents. | People who carry a gun for a living carry that way, why wouldn't you? For that matter why even carry.
The bad guy already has an advantage on you, he knows when he's going to strike. You don't! Thats one step he is ahead of you. The second is if he is hiding, now he has the element of surprise. Thats two steps. The third step would be the fact that he isn't comming at you with an empty chamber. The list could go on and on. Now, factor in the fact the you have to rack your slide.
You being the good guy, are already at a disadvantage. That is why we train (or should) so much to keep us sharp.
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11-09-2009, 02:09 AM
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#28 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by M14man | Carried it 35 years and never found that I had to have it so ready that I didnt have time to chamber it. I don't live in fear that goonies are going to jump from the trees after me. I can rack it as fast as it comes out and I am not so afraid of my butt as to warrant live chamber. Fools cause accidents. |
I am not afraid of goonies, They are harmless kids just trying to find One-eyed Willy's treasure. I am not sure if they even cimb trees.
Joking aside. As a peace officer and ccw holder I always carry with one in the chamber when I carry a semi-auto. When I carry revolver I wouldn't carry with the first fired camber empty.... If you want to carry without a round in the chamber to each his own....doesn't sound like a smart idea to me but you have to live and die by your own choices.
Now if it's a 1911 you are carrying and you have a problem with the cocked and locked option you could consider a double action/single action auto, a double action only or striker fired pistol. Use your head and you will never have a problem with any Auto carried with one in the chamber.
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11-09-2009, 03:05 AM
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#29 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Screwing around with a gun in a parking lot is stupid.
The whole reason for you to have a ccw permit is the element
of surprise,you let every one around know you had a gun.
Glad no one was hurt.Learn from it.
Carrying a gun around unloaded is stupid as stated.
If you have time to see the threat draw, rack 1 in, aquire the threat
and fire before he does all while hopefully going to cover.
Congrats you are lucky your not dead or he thinks like you do.
Got to love hollywood self defence training videos.
Stay away from shoulder holsters, pointing a gun at yourself as you have proved
is probably not a good idea. Get a good iwb holster try don hume or galico.
Please don't take this as a bash, you manned up and will never make that mistake again.
If you carry don't show off, keep it as your personal little edge.
I am sure this is a embarrassment to you but thanks for reminding everyone that guns are not toys.
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11-09-2009, 05:18 AM
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#30 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by Archetype_wyo | discharged into the seat of my car but didn't puncture thanks to a CD Case that goes on your visor. . | where did you get that cd case ? I want to get one for personel protection if it stopped a .45 round from penetrating thru it !
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Note I am very very freaked out about this and will not be carrying for some time until I can get a new shoulder holster as this one was not very practical and is damaged due to the negligent discharge. | How did the shoulder holster get damaged from an accidental discharge while the gun was in your hand clearing a jam ?
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Originally Posted by rondog An unloaded gun is just an awkward club. If you carry a gun with an unloaded chamber you're a fool. | Totally agree with this !
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11-09-2009, 07:24 AM
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#31 | | Firearm Zealot
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The shoulder holster was lying on the seat of my car. I had been packing my 1911 around up in the mountains hunting earlier that day and my shoulders were sore.
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11-09-2009, 07:56 AM
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#32 | | Firearm Aficionado
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I know you won't let'em get you down A_W, you've already learned from it, just go on about your biz. I've been packing for a living for 31+ years and gave up on finding a really comfortable shoulder holster, plus there's that thing of not being able to draw from one without covering some part of your own body, plus if you're in a real close quarters situation it might be tough to get it out and make it start workin'. My off duty carry gun is a 1911 compact cocked and locked in an IWB hollster.
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11-09-2009, 09:36 AM
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#33 | | Firearm Zealot
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Thanks Green. It was a mistake I shouldn't have made but as with every mistake it all happened so fast that by the time I realised what had happened the damage both mentally and to my holster and such were already done.
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11-09-2009, 09:42 AM
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#34 | | Firearm Zealot
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Though I have'nt had a gun go off accidentaly I have recently caught myself forgetting the chamber is loaded in my pistol. Let me explain, read on.
Normaly I leave the chamber empty in my semi-auto pistol, yet here lately I've been in and out of the woods preping for Deer season.
When I arrive at the hunting grounds I rack and load the chamber and go on and do what I'm there to do.
Twice this past week when arriveing home I failed to unload the chamber, remembering hours later it's loaded.
Am I painting a picture ??? I'm use to the chamber being unloaded and say my son were to come home, he knows all my guns do not have a round in the chamber.
What if he looked it over or someone else and Bang it goes off.
Anyway I have'nt conditioned myself to remember to unload the chamber and after typeing this I hope it helps me to.
This only applys to my pistol. I unload my long guns before I leave the woods.
You know the saying... People have been shot or killed by a gun that was thought to be un-loaded.
I can see why thats possible. I know many here leave there handguns fully loaded which I don't have a problem with and thats probable a good idea because you would'nt have the problem of remembering wether or not the gun is loaded.
I thought I'd throw this in because of said reason above, for others to avoid haveing a possible accident.
Though I will continue to leave the chamber un-loaded for now, I've got to be on my toes to remember to un-load from an outing.
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11-09-2009, 09:43 AM
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#35 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by Archetype_wyo | As the thread title says I had one. Was showin the .45 to a friend in the parking lot and accidentally stripped one off into the chamber and didn't realize it. Well as you can guess I dropped the hammer on a hot tube and the gun discharged into the seat of my car but didn't puncture thanks to a CD Case that goes on your visor. Please tell me im not the first to feel this stupid and accidentally discharge your gun in front of a friend. | I once shot my reflection in a mirror-right between the eyes.
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11-09-2009, 10:00 AM
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#36 | | Firearm Zealot
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Thanks for the support AH, I thought I'd get a ration of hell from you but glad you're behind me smackin me upside the head.
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11-09-2009, 10:19 AM
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#37 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by Archetype_wyo | ...empty chamber but had a jam, dropped mag and this is when the jam cleared and the round was stripped off without my knowledge. You can guess what happened from there.
... | Helps if you drop the mag beforeyou empty the chamber ;-) I know with a lot of guns, you can use your finger as a mag cutoff to clear the chamber with the the mag in place, but it's not worth it. It's usually just easier to drop the mag.
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11-09-2009, 11:03 AM
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#38 | | Firearm Zealot
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I've never had a accidental discharge yet. But to sit here and criticize you for making a mistake, being man enough to own up to it, and learning from it would be wrong. Making mistakes and learning from it is called being human. Thank God no one was hurt in this particular incident. A lot of guys would never own up to it if they did do something like this. I'm not going to tell you to be careful in the future because I'm pretty sure you will be. Live and learn then move on.
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11-09-2009, 05:05 PM
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#39 | | Firearm Zealot
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Just spoke with an LEO that had tried contacting me here at work. He let me off with a serious warning. We had a heart-to-heart/gun owner-to-gun owner talk. I can tell you I am pretty scared. He told me their procedure for clearing weapons and such and I can tell you right now he didn't want to give me a citation and made sure I was 100% aware of what was in store for me if I were to screw up again.
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11-09-2009, 05:48 PM
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#40 | | Firearm Zealot
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AT-W ,
On 11-7 you accidently discharged your .45 . On 11-9- your local LEO had a conversation with you about it . How did it take 2 days for your LEO to get ahold of this info and then contact you ?
I know the police are usually minutes away but 2 days I don't get ? Help me out on this please ? also what CD case do you have ?
Thanks for the help and info !
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