11-11-2009, 02:40 PM
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#21 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by SwedeSteve  | Love the 375 Win as well !! Hey AH- There's a Rem 742 in 30-06 at the Gun Shop that's a little rough on the outside. $295 otd. | You may want to check that 742 out before you buy it. They can wear the receiver pretty bad where the bolt comes to a stop. Because of the multi-lug system and the fact that it kind of screws itself out, the recoil causes the lugs to groove the receiver. After a time the bolt will come back and the lugs will hang in the grooves, keeping the bolt back. I would have a gunsmith look at it if I wasn't sure. Just my opinion.
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11-11-2009, 03:02 PM
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#22 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by rdale501 | You may want to check that 742 out before you buy it. They can wear the receiver pretty bad where the bolt comes to a stop. Because of the multi-lug system and the fact that it kind of screws itself out, the recoil causes the lugs to groove the receiver. After a time the bolt will come back and the lugs will hang in the grooves, keeping the bolt back. I would have a gunsmith look at it if I wasn't sure. Just my opinion. | I've heard this to and have looked at a lot of well used 742's and the only one I've seen with a little damage is the one I own.
Pull the bolt back until it locks open. Look inside the reciever on the inside oppisit wall of the reciever you'll see a fine rail machined into the reciever.
Thats what takes a beating, that fine rail the bolt slides back and forth on.
Mine is jagged. It almost looks like it's suppose to be that way.
I don't intend to use this rifle anymore, but it's not because of the rail.
It's because it sounds like an Artillery piece being fired.
It's the loudest rifle I've ever heard. People sound like they've inhaled helium to my ears after I shoot it. And it's not a carbine.
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11-14-2009, 12:34 PM
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#23 | | Freedom Zealot
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I'll have to look at the one in the shop today AH !!
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11-14-2009, 07:24 PM
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#24 | | (Tom)
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Going up to NE Mo on Tuesday for three days. Taking my Ruger #1 45 70, and Sako 308. Ruger has iron sights. Brother is taking his Browning hi wall in 45 70 and his 308 BLR.(scoped) Hope to have a report come Thursday or Friday.
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11-14-2009, 07:55 PM
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#25 | | Firearm Zealot
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I was Lucky today to score a 7 point buck with my Ruger Hawkeye rifle in 308.
The next trip to the woods deer hunting, I'll take my Marlin Big Bore in .375 .
Now I really feel excited LOL
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11-14-2009, 08:11 PM
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#26 | | Firearm Aficionado
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The only big bore rifle I own is a Winchester 94 in 45 Colt. I don't use it for hunting, as I have plenty of other rifles for that job. Although it would have been handy today. Yes, I got skunked. I saw 6 deer today, all on the side of the road, dead. Feh.
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11-14-2009, 09:01 PM
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#27 | | Chief Troll B' Gone
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I have killed deer with several from .338 Win Mag to .458 Lott, and never ruined anymore meat than a 30-06 or .300 Win Mag! they smack em down hard!
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11-14-2009, 09:04 PM
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#28 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by Midas | I have killed deer with several from .338 Win Mag to .458 Lott, and never ruined anymore meat than a 30-06 or .300 Win Mag! they smack em down hard! | I had a feeling he'd post something along those lines...
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11-14-2009, 09:27 PM
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#29 | | Freedom Zealot
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^ If so, then why comment about it ??
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11-14-2009, 09:38 PM
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#30 | | (Tom)
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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter | I was Lucky today to score a 7 point buck with my Ruger Hawkeye rifle in 308.
The next trip to the woods deer hunting, I'll take my Marlin Big Bore in .375 .
Now I really feel excited LOL | You Arkies take that huntin serious like. That two of you on the board so far ! | |
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11-14-2009, 09:40 PM
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#31 | | Freedom Zealot
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And we're not counting the ones with no lectricity !!
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11-15-2009, 06:08 PM
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#32 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter | I was Lucky today to score a 7 point buck with my Ruger Hawkeye rifle in 308.
The next trip to the woods deer hunting, I'll take my Marlin Big Bore in .375 .
Now I really feel excited LOL |
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11-15-2009, 06:46 PM
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#33 | | Freedom Zealot
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Most likely...
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11-17-2009, 07:56 PM
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#34 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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45/70 and love it.
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12-04-2009, 10:59 AM
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#35 | | Firearm Zealot
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How strong is the N.E.F. 45-70 Handi-Rifle? I've thought about
getting one of these. I don't know why but I want something
that hits like a sledgehammer.
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12-04-2009, 02:27 PM
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#36 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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what is a NEF 45-70,I don't know alot about rifles?There are guns that make the 45-70 look like a bb gun.Try a .450 marlin,it's the same bullet caliber and weight,but traveling much faster.
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12-04-2009, 06:08 PM
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#37 | | Firearm Aficionado
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To the handloader all the 450 Marlin is is a 45-70 with a belt. It has no advantage whatsoever over a 45-70. If you want to make a 45-70 look like a 'BB gun' you'll have to look to the Elephant calibers.
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12-04-2009, 08:17 PM
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#38 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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the 450 marlin certainly isn't the same as a 45-70 with a belt.Compare Hornady leverevolution for instance,The 45-70 has a muzzle energy of 3032 ft lbs,as where the 450 marlin has a muzzle energy of 3572 ft lbs.That's enough difference to make one opt for the 450 when buying a new gun,the .450 ring is there so you can't chamber the round in a regular 45-70 and blow the gun up.
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12-04-2009, 08:56 PM
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#39 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by ninjatoth | the 450 marlin certainly isn't the same as a 45-70 with a belt.Compare Hornady leverevolution for instance,The 45-70 has a muzzle energy of 3032 ft lbs,as where the 450 marlin has a muzzle energy of 3572 ft lbs.That's enough difference to make one opt for the 450 when buying a new gun,the .450 ring is there so you can't chamber the round in a regular 45-70 and blow the gun up. |
You managed to miss my point. To a HANDLOADER there is no difference at all between the two. Check out the case dimensions, it's the same cartridge case with a belt instead of a rim.
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12-04-2009, 08:58 PM
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#40 | | Chief Troll B' Gone
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moosemike is correct, the only place where the .450 has a ballistic advantage is factory ammunition, the .45-70 can be handloaded to equal .450 ballistics.
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