so say you get a registerd FA ar if its not a sear gun the lower recever would be the registerd part, correct? so if you get say a .22 upper asmb. for it could you legaly shoot the .22 full auto? or is it only for the specific caliber so it would have to be reg. for the .22?
By my understanding of it yes the lower is the registered part and not the upper if the possibilty of the .22 cycling properly have fun.................................
so say you get a registerd FA ar if its not a sear gun the lower recever would be the registerd part, correct? so if you get say a .22 upper asmb. for it could you legaly shoot the .22 full auto? or is it only for the specific caliber so it would have to be reg. for the .22?
The sear fits into the lower, not the upper. As a result, it would not have anything to do with the function of the upper receiver, with the exception of requiring an M16 bolt carrier group due to the part required to trip the sear.
The M16 bolts are not considered a "full auto" part, because they do not allow an otherwise-unmodified semi-auto AR to fire full-auto and do not alter the fire control group...
No. It depends on the gun - in some its the receiver that is considered to be the machingun by BATFE, in other guns it is the lower, in others its the bolt, and in others its the upper. In one case, the spring in a modified stock was ruled to be a machine gun (Akins Accellerator - do a search).
To the second part of your question, once again it depends on the gun - there are Uzis that are registered in .22, 9mm AND .45 while others are registered only in a single caliber.
Confused yet?
- stay away from full auto. There are many legalities involved as well as expense.
Sorry, but bs.... The paperwork is straightforward, any SOT/FFL can walk you through it in 10 minutes.
True there are legalities involved that you dont have with a non-NFA weapon but they are easy to comply with - you have to have an approved 5320.20 to transport interstate, you need to have a copy of your approved form 3 with you when you have the weapon, and only you (or anyone authorized in a trust should you use one) can have access to the weapon. There may or may not be State restrictions depending on where you live. Thats about it. All that crap about the BATFE kicking in your door to inspect your NFA weapons is just that - crap.
I personally own a MG (M-11), 3 cans and an AOW. It's not that big of a deal.
Last edited by Mooseman684; 04-29-2010 at 12:00 AM.
I feel you hit it on the head when you mentioned about the state in which you live.
My post was not limited to the federal situation.
I feel I was correct in advising some serious study before venturing into this area.
Sorry, I am spoiled by living in a NFA friendly state.
Bottom line though is if you are allowed to own it by state law, its not that difficult to comply with the federal regs. State regs tend to be you can own it or you cant, with a few exceptions (WA you can own cans but you can't shoot them).
I do agree that you need to do some research before you get into the NFA game.
I have owned FA's since the 1968 amnesty (and it's rumored that I owned quite a few prior to 1968 but I ain't admitting nuttin'!) and I have NEVER seen or heard from an ATF agent regarding my guns. FFL yes but never about the guns.
I bought my first operable FA in about 1957 -an MP 40 for $20. Never heard of registration and didn't learn about it till about the mid 1960s = 3+ guns later. I registered about a dozen MPs, MGs, Mortars u. stocked pistols in 68.
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