Bizarre Twist? Fort Hood shooter was a Homeland Security adviser!
Nidal Hasan, the nutball psychiatrist who murdered and wounded all those people at Fort Hood was part of a self-anointed "think and do tank" that wrote papers for the Department of Homeland Security advising them how to handle potential problems during the waning months of the Bush Administration and the Obamist transition. Is that four kinds of weird or what?
On May 19, 2009, The George Washington University Homeland Security Policy Institute (HSPI), an entity that "creates innovative strategies and solutions to current and future threats to the nation," published a report entitled "Thinking Anew - Security Priorities for the Next Administration - Proceedings Report of the HSPI Presidential Transition Task Force April 2008-January 2009" Listed in the report under the heading "Task Force Event Participants" is none other than alleged murderer, Nidal Hasan.
I think they should seriously quit screwing around and profile all muslims & islamists & radical christians so this kind of thing won't happen again.
Second thing, they need to ARM every combat-trained E6+ with pistols.
Have Combat-trained officers of O3+ carrying as well...just like in WW2.
Time to stop being pansies and return to being the people that everyone feared to fight again.
Is there radical Christians ??? I personaly would like to see this nation become a christain nation again.
Does that make me radical ? No it does'nt. The rest of your post I can agree 100%.
If a person is truely Born Again they would'nt be a radical. If they are, then there not Born Again and don't deserve to be named or called a Christain.
Just trien to set this straight a little bit. Now what I said does not mean we can't fight for whats right and just, we can and will and with Gods help we'll win but it's got to be honest, just and right.
A Radical is what it means a Radical that is contrary to how God wants us to live our lives.
There's know such thing as a radical christian.
If we would ever unite you'd see good change for America and it's people saved and un-saved.
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Is there radical Christians ??? I personaly would like to see this nation become a christain nation again.
Does that make me radical ? No it does'nt. The rest of your post I can agree 100%.
If a person is truely Born Again they would'nt be a radical. If they are, then there not Born Again and don't deserve to be named or called a Christain.
Just trien to set this straight a little bit. Now what I said does not mean we can't fight for whats right and just, we can and will and with Gods help we'll win but it's got to be honest, just and right.
A Radical is what it means a Radical that is contrary to how God wants us to live our lives.
There's know such thing as a radical christian.
If we would ever unite you'd see good change for America and it's people saved and un-saved.
Ever hear about these guys??
And then there was the Branch Dividians Cult led by David Koresh...total nutters.
There's always a few psychos in every religion.
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Have had names like "Frank Smith" or "Fred Jones" ?
Maybe zero ?
So how many shoot-em-ups have been in places where one could freely CCW ?
Maybe zero ?
Think there's a pattern here.
How about this for a DoD policy: "All officers and NCO's will be armed wherever and whenever possible when on duty. All officers and NCO's are highly encouraged to be armed off duty."
Seems simple enough doesn't it ?
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only MUSLIM nutz call for the eradication of Christian/Judea beliefs, and are powerful and widespread enough to try to do it. sure all beliefs have their fringe elements, but they are small and usually mask themself's as Christian.
no more excuses. a spade is a spade, and a killer is a killer no exceptions.
i see that the blame game is in full swing now, everyone suspected radical ties, no one did anything to intercept before Hasan finally acted, Federal agencys only fiddled.
i see that the MSM of all kinds have started using that nasty word "alledged"...how sick is that? this is no NCIS tv show, Muslim terrorist Hasan did the crime with no doubt of motive or innocence.
there i said my piece, no you may lock down the thread cause thats where its going.
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I think they should seriously quit screwing around and profile all muslims & islamists & radical christians so this kind of thing won't happen again.
Second thing, they need to ARM every combat-trained E6+ with pistols.
Have Combat-trained officers of O3+ carrying as well...just like in WW2.
Time to stop being pansies and return to being the people that everyone feared to fight again.
AMEN!! What happened to the days of profiling for the betterment of everyone? All those Japanese-Americans put in Heart Mountain, Wyoming and similar camps yes we compensated them but we rarely look back on it as a mistake. We did it to protect our citizen's and it's government. Yeah it sucks for those who get profiled but when its all said and done, we were just watching out backs for the next Psycho Saheeb Suicide Bomber. We're sorry, deal with it.
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AMEN!! What happened to the days of profiling for the betterment of everyone? All those Japanese-Americans put in Heart Mountain, Wyoming and similar camps yes we compensated them but we rarely look back on it as a mistake. We did it to protect our citizen's and it's government. Yeah it sucks for those who get profiled but when its all said and done, we were just watching out backs for the next Psycho Saheeb Suicide Bomber. We're sorry, deal with it.
are you serious? putting americans of japanese decent into internment camps was a joke. there was an internment camp at the race track in my town and i know a woman who had to spent a few years there as a child. it was nothing but overreaction to the attack on pearl harbor and i think it was a disgrace that we did it.
where were all the german and italian camps? why were the italian americans and americans of german decent left to do as they wish? surely they were just as capable of being spys as the japanese?
as far as reparations go, how much do you think someone who had to spend three years living in an internment camp should get? our government thought 20k was a good number. the woman i know doesn't think so. i wouldn't either if my child spent three years living at the racetracks horse stables, just to get out and find there home destroyed or taken over.
i don't know what the camp at heart mountain was like, but here in california most of them were at fairground racetracks. i just can't see living in a stable, myself. can you imagine how bad the parents felt watching there children growing up under those circumstances?
do you know why heart mountain is a historical landmark?
“places like Manzanar, Tule Lake, Heart Mountain, Topaz, Amache, Jerome, and Rohwer will forever stand as reminders that this nation failed in its most sacred duty to protect its citizens against prejudice, greed, and political expediency”.
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are you serious? putting americans of japanese decent into internment camps was a joke. there was an internment camp at the race track in my town and i know a woman who had to spent a few years there as a child. it was nothing but overreaction to the attack on pearl harbor and i think it was a disgrace that we did it.
where were all the german and italian camps? why were the italian americans and americans of german decent left to do as they wish? surely they were just as capable of being spys as the japanese?
as far as reparations go, how much do you think someone who had to spend three years living in an internment camp should get? our government thought 20k was a good number. the woman i know doesn't think so. i wouldn't either if my child spent three years living at the racetracks horse stables, just to get out and find there home destroyed or taken over.
i don't know what the camp at heart mountain was like, but here in california most of them were at fairground racetracks. i just can't see living in a stable, myself. can you imagine how bad the parents felt watching there children growing up under those circumstances?
do you know why heart mountain is a historical landmark?
“places like Manzanar, Tule Lake, Heart Mountain, Topaz, Amache, Jerome, and Rohwer will forever stand as reminders that this nation failed in its most sacred duty to protect its citizens against prejudice, greed, and political expediency”.
To some extent, it was also to protect the Japanese from retaliation from the rest of America.
Bear in mind, this was a time period where lynching was COMMONPLACE. Burning Black churches for FUN was a regular occurance. If you weren't White, you didn't have no rights.
And if you read up on the other happenings in Northern cities to German-owned shops...a lot of them got burned out, lynched, & whatnot. It wasn't pretty.
Of course, the same thing happened to a smaller extent after 9/11, once it was discovered that Islam had a hand in it. Muslim & even non-muslim cab drivers & Convenience Store owners/employees nationwide were being killed, especially around NY & other Northern states. Cops would write it up as a robbery...and neglect to mention that the victims often looked to be Middle Eastern. The FBI wrote a nice treatise on the issue, but the News Media never picked up on it.
(Although a lot of 'em were from India/etc and to the morons, it was close enough.)
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does that make it ok? i say they should have been left free as any other american citizen and allowed the choice to defend themselves if they wished. not imprisoned for thier own good.
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I see that the MSM of all kinds have started using that nasty word "alledged"...how sick is that? this is no NCIS TV show, Muslim terrorist Hasan did the crime with no doubt of motive or innocence.
Papa G, the media HAS to use the word "alleged" until and unless the suspect/perp/defendant is convicted of the crime. If they don't, defense attorneys can claim that the jury pool was tainted and their clients can't get a fair trial. In the past, judges have had to kick defendants loose because of this. That's where the policy comes from.
When charges are filed, the media can start using words like "accused." But they can't call the sick sonofabitch a murderer until he is convicted, even in a case like this one where the killer was caught in the act, literally with the smoking gun in his hand.
If you remember the Tate-Labianca murder trials in L.A. in 1970 and 1971 where Charles Manson and his followers were convicted of murder, at one point in the trial Manson flashed the LA Times front page whose headline was "Manson Guilty, Nixon Declares" at the jury. Judge Charles Older (an ex-Flying Tigers fighter pilot and ace, by the way) was forced to voir dire the jurors to determine if the headline had influenced them in any way. THAT is how far the American legal system bends over backwards to insure that criminal defendants get a fair trial in this country.
Personally, I'm in favor of someone going into the wacko's hospital room and finishing him off, to save the Army the expense and trouble of a court-martial. There's no doubt Hasan is the killer, that he did it and is guilty as sin. But even the Koran demands that murderers receive a trial. Assuming he ever comes out of his coma, he should be given a fair trial and then be shot in an expeditious, military manner. No plea bargain, no insanity defense; just a proper court-martial with execution by musketry to follow.
... Cyrano ... you are completely correct here. As much as it is bothersome to hear (the 'alleged' word when there were over 100 witnesses to the crime) ... people need to be careful when speaking about who did what and when for just that reason.
... I too recall reading about the Manson trial and the Nixon comments.
... as for Hasan, I'm happy he didn't get his 'quick exit' to the 72 virgins (which I am sure ... are all men) however I really don't want we ... as taxpayers ... paying for anything to support this traitor, this betrayer of the military brotherhood POS. I hope he is in great pain ... and I look forward to a public execution of this traitor, especially in time of war.
... lastly, I really question the intellect of the person or persons who put Hasan on the Homeland Security board ... especially when it was known this man was a radical.
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AMEN!! What happened to the days of profiling for the betterment of everyone? All those Japanese-Americans put in Heart Mountain, Wyoming and similar camps yes we compensated them but we rarely look back on it as a mistake.
Speak for yourself, Archetype_wyo. I don't regard it as a mistake.
I regard it as a gross violation of Americans' civil rights and a blot on our national escutcheon of equal justice under the law that all Americans profess to believe in.
We broke so many laws by locking up absolutely innocent Japanese-Americans and confiscating their property that it defies belief! As a nation, we should be ashamed of that even today. We gave in to our fears in a case of hysteria.
Lock up the Bundists, sure. They had given their allegiance to Hitler. Lock up the Fascists? Sure. Their professed loyalty was to Mussolini, not to the United States. Lock up the Japanese Imperialists, the ones who still believed they owed loyalty to Hirohito because they were Japanese and he was the Emperor descended of Amaterasu, the Sun Goddess? No problem. But to lock up 120,000 people on the American mainland for no other reason than they were Japanese ethnics, two thirds of them American citizens at that, was simply despicable. It was a blatant act of prejudice and against everything America stands for.
In Hawaii, there were something like 150,000 Japanese, both resident aliens and US citizens. The Territorial government only locked up about 1500 of them, the ones they investigated and found to be security risks. At first, there was a round-up, just like the ones on the West Coast. But the neighbors and employers of the Japanese that were grabbed went to the authorities and vouched for them, assuring the authorities that Saburo X and Masayo Y and Kinjiro Z were no threat, that the haoles had known them for years; that they were as angry as the haoles were that the Japs had bombed Pearl harbor with no warning. And generally the authorities listened, and let them go home.
We have a similar situation now. We are in a de facto state of war with Islamists who hate what our nation stands for, whose minds have been warped by fanatic imams who want to use them against America. But that does not mean all American Muslims are evil or that they are plotting to attack America. 99%-plus of them are not. I suspect that as with the ethnic Japanese in 1942, many are conflicted. They are ashamed that their co-religionists are attacking their country, and have a hard time reconciling that with what they were taught and with what they have learned from life in the United States.
Eventually they may have to decide if they are Americans first, or if they are Muslims first. When they reach that point, then we may have to think about locking up the ones who think they are Muslims first as enemy combatants or national security risks or whatever rationalization is most palatable to you. But until then, we should be ashamed of ourselves for assuming that every Muslim is a terror-bomber out to kill us all. Ethnic profiling is a despicable practice. So is religious profiling.
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