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Old 11-12-2009, 01:21 AM   #1
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Question Scope Mounting Hardware?

Hello. I finally got a scope for my rifle (Savage model 93 - .17 cal.), but it has no mounting hardware (brackets?). Where might I find this hardware please?

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Old 11-12-2009, 06:48 AM   #2
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Might check Brownells.com and order them. I've had great service from the folks at Brownells. Also, you can find out which mounts you need by going on line to about any quality scope maker. If you don't wanna do the on-line purchase you can still find out what you need then sit down with the yellow pages and make some calls, and most of the makers will have a "dealer locater" function on their websites.
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Old 11-12-2009, 08:06 AM   #3
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Midway, Brownells, or EA Brown all sell scope bases and rings. You can do a scope base (picitinny rail) with rings or rings the attach to the receiver.
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Old 11-12-2009, 08:49 AM   #4
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Thank you both, and thanks for the "welcome".

I looked-around online, and it seems there are many options (which tends to throw me off even more when I'm not sure what I'm even doing in the first place).

I pulled this -->
MidwayUSA: Ring Height from Midway's site, but am still pretty clueless.

I measured the bell/outside diameter, and it looks like 1 & 3/4 inches (1.75 inches/44.45mm), but then I'm not sure what they mean from that point (?).

Are they saying that I need a ring that is 0.27-inches tall/high (which is a little more than a 1/4 inch),
please ?
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Old 11-12-2009, 10:04 AM   #5
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I got a 93fv in .22wmr. scope mounted right to it. just use a little loctite
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Old 11-12-2009, 11:25 AM   #6
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I measured the bell/outside diameter, and it looks like 1 & 3/4 inches (1.75 inches/44.45mm), but then I'm not sure what they mean from that point (?)


In order to mount a scope you will need a mount and rings. Install mount to weapon and add rings. Some mounts have rings as one piece. Rings are refered to as low,med ,high. The measurement you asked about is measured from top of base to the to the bottom of ring. (where scope will sit) Scope bell can't touch weapon and needs to be as close to center of bore as possible. Looks like low rings are what you need.



Ring Height Selection:
  • Low for scopes up to 44mm objective with standard barrel contour
  • Medium for scopes up to 50mm objective with standard barrel contour
  • High for scopes with a 56mm objective with standard barrel contour
  • Extra-High for large objective scopes with heavy contour barrels and single shot rifles
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Old 11-12-2009, 11:30 AM   #7
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I measured the bell/outside diameter, and it looks like 1 & 3/4 inches (1.75 inches/44.45mm), but then I'm not sure what they mean from that point (?)


In order to mount a scope you will need a mount and rings. Install mount to weapon and add rings. Some mounts have rings as one piece. Rings are refered to as low,med ,high. The measurement you asked about is measured from top of base to the to the bottom of ring. (where scope will sit) Scope bell can't touch weapon and needs to be as close to center of bore as possible. Looks like low rings are what you need.



Ring Height Selection:
  • Low for scopes up to 44mm objective with standard barrel contour
  • Medium for scopes up to 50mm objective with standard barrel contour
  • High for scopes with a 56mm objective with standard barrel contour
  • Extra-High for large objective scopes with heavy contour barrels and single shot rifles
luck
Roger that - thank you very much. I already have the mounts (they came with the rifle) I just don't want to buy the wrong rings and have to go through the whole process of returning them, etc.

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Old 11-12-2009, 11:37 AM   #8
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i've got some extra rings. see if you can figure out what height you need and if i got the right ones you can have them. (unless you're dying to get shooting and want to get them local)
is the mount weaver or .22 size?
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Old 11-13-2009, 03:58 PM   #9
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i've got some extra rings. see if you can figure out what height you need and if i got the right ones you can have them. (unless you're dying to get shooting and want to get them local)
is the mount weaver or .22 size?
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Hey, thank you very much, but I am happy to pay you for them. I'm just not certain of what I need.

According to the aforementioned chart referenced in the post by good 'ol HK770 here, it seems I need "medium" height rings, though I "think" that I'm just beyond the spec for the "low" height (I measured approx. 1 & 3/4" - on the muzzle-end of this scope - which apparently translates to 44.45mm?). Perhaps the low height would work as well?

Thanks again for your help and the offer. If you'll PM me with an address, I will send money for them.

Thanks,
Glenn...

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Old 11-13-2009, 08:59 PM   #10
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mount the rifle in a gun vice or have someone hold it for you. take the scope and hold it above your mount leaving about 1/4" of clearence between the end bell and reciever and measure from the bottom of the scope tube to the mount. that'll let me be able to see if the mounts i have will work on it.
i still need to know what the rail on your mount is. is it weaver/picatinny or .22?
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Old 11-13-2009, 10:26 PM   #11
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mount the rifle in a gun vice or have someone hold it for you. take the scope and hold it above your mount leaving about 1/4" of clearence between the end bell and reciever and measure from the bottom of the scope tube to the mount. that'll let me be able to see if the mounts i have will work on it.
i still need to know what the rail on your mount is. is it weaver/picatinny or .22?
I believe it's "Weaver" (?) - just based-on some reading I've done. I figure it's better to show you than to try to describe them.

I hope these pics turn-out ok...
PS ~ Thanks again - I'll do the measurement in the morning...
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Old 11-14-2009, 02:02 AM   #12
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sure look like weaver to me. find the "macro" button on that camera for closeups nest time.
if your measurements are what i got, you can have the rings for postage. i do not need them.
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Old 11-14-2009, 10:29 AM   #13
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sure look like weaver to me. find the "macro" button on that camera for closeups nest time.
if your measurements are what i got, you can have the rings for postage. i do not need them.
Well I thought I did zoom-in? At least on that first one...I think my lighting (lack thereof) was probably more of the problem.

I'll do measurements within the hour.

I really appreciate your help. If you'll PM me an address after my next post, I will immediately, and gladly, send-out the postage to the 'Republik of Kalifornia' there (good one!), from the CommonMELT of Virginia.

Thanks again...

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i'm not worried about the postage, just finding you the right rings is my only concern. it would be killing me, not being able to shoot it right now! lol!
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i'm not worried about the postage, just finding you the right rings is my only concern. it would be killing me, not being able to shoot it right now! lol!
~*EDIT*~ PS ~ on a subsequent measurement, it looks more like 5/16" between the mount and the bottom of the tube. Sorry. I shoot fairly well, but I don't measure worth a dang!

Thanks - sorry for the delay, my day sort of got in the way of my...uh, day.

I get the same 1/4" measurement from between the bottom of the end bell and the receiver/barrel, and between the tube and mount - per your instructions.

Oh, and I have "fired it" by the way...several times...just not exactly what you might call, "accurately" ...
PS ~ on a subsequent measurement, it looks more like 5/16" between the mount and the bottom of the tube. Sorry. I shoot fairly well, but I don't measure worth a dang!

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the ones i got might be a bit low. pm me your address and i'll get them in the mail and we'll see.
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Will do right away - thank you very much...
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Old 11-17-2009, 02:30 PM   #18
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WAIT! Is the tube diameter 1" or 30mm? It will matter for the size of the rings! if you have a set of calipers, 30mm = 1.181"
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WAIT! Is the tube diameter 1" or 30mm? It will matter for the size of the rings! if you have a set of calipers, 30mm = 1.181"
I don't have calipers. The package says "4x 32mm". It's a Bushnell model # 721403C (it's a cheapie...only really need it for varmint-poppin'...maybe 50-100 yards - at the most).
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WAIT! Is the tube diameter 1" or 30mm? It will matter for the size of the rings! if you have a set of calipers, 30mm = 1.181"
doesn't matter now. they're officially in the hands of the u.s. mail.
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