Civilian Inmate Prison Camps on Army Installations

[Dodahdude]

I thought detaining civilian inmates on a military complex was illegal? Code word, "Cable Splicer". Like in home invasion cable?

http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf

Found it here...

Operation Cable Splicer - SourceWatch

[SwedeSteve]

Man !! You need to adjust your tin foil hat !!

[Midas]

I've heard some tall tales in my day, but geez...........I don't know what's worse, the fact that this tripe is circulating around the internet, or the fact that people believe it.

[LiveToShoot]

Originally Posted by Dodahdude

I thought detaining civilian inmates on a military complex was illegal? Code word, "Cable Splicer". Like in home invasion cable?

http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf

Found it here...

Operation Cable Splicer - SourceWatch

Some take shocking news like this as a tough pill to swallow...

...when in reality, it's a huge suppository, that'll be force into us; figuratively speaking, when the powers that be so choose.

Thanks...

...from an American who is no longer snuggled up in his comfy sheeple slumber, or threatened by the tin foil hat wearer label.

[TexasT]

Originally Posted by Midas

I've heard some tall tales in my day, but geez...........I don't know what's worse, the fact that this tripe is circulating around the internet, or the fact that people believe it.

I think it's because tin foil is hard to come by. It's all aluminum foil now. Just doesn't block out the brain rays like tin foil.

[Rambo]

The people who want to believe this are the ones clamoring for change now.

[petrol]

part of obama's dastardly plan that was put in place in a document dated 2005. he is a quick worker after all.

[zmanfury]

there's always been civilian inmates on some base . it's nothing new.

[ArkansasHunter]

Any thing is possible in these last days...A.H

[Jersey Jailer]

Yeah but; Ft Dix has held a NJ State prison for quite some time. Damn, since they shut most of the base down, let's use the resources and save some $$$$.

Cable splicer is a bit far fetched tho... your antennae need some tweeking

[SightNSqueeze]

Originally Posted by zmanfury

there's always been civilian inmates on some base . it's nothing new.

That much is true. You are referring to Bureau of Prisons inmates assigned to minimum custody work camps on military bases. The work usually involves golf course maintenance, with a chance to play a few holes when the work is done, say around 1330-1400. Living accommodations are on par with a college dorm complete with a kitchenette. However, there may be something to this based on the nature of the memorandum dated 2005.

Apparently, the inmates are existing inmates from federal correctional facilities. I didn't have time to read the entire policy proposal, but this gives some indication of what the Army is talking about.

c. Services provided to installations

. Services provided to the installation must be in accordance with 18 USC
4125(a). Such services are constructing or repairing roads; clearing, maintaining, or reforesting public land; building
levees; or constructing or repairing any other public way or works financed wholly or in major part by funds
a p p r o p r i a t e d b y C o n g r e s s . I n m a t e s m a y p e r f o r m c u s t o d i a l t a s k s , b u i l d i n g d e m o l i t i o n , d e b r i s r e m o v a l , m o w i n g ,
landscaping, painting, carpentry, trash pickup, transporting debris to and from recycling centers, and other similar
activities. No other services are allowed by law.

d. Work performed

. Work performed by inmates will not interfere nor conflict with approved projects for which
resources have been allocated and funds made available for performance by contract or Army civilian labor force, or
with work which can be accomplished within authorized personnel ceilings. The Civilian Inmate Labor Program was
created to provide installation commanders with an alternate labor source to perform valid requirements. Civilian
inmate labor does not compete with existing in–house or contractor resources.

e. Participants

. Only inmates classified as minimum level security will participate in the Civilian Inmate Labor
Program. Minimum level security inmates do not need constant guard. Corrections facilities will be responsible for
ensuring that only minimum level security inmates participate in the inmate labor program and for selecting inmate

participants.

[Dragunov]

They're referring to just that, civilian inmates from either the pen or county. We have them working on our base three days a week under armed guard.

[TXplt]

Originally Posted by Midas

I've heard some tall tales in my day, but geez...........I don't know what's worse, the fact that this tripe is circulating around the internet, or the fact that people believe it.

Didn't access the link, but the concept of Civilian Inmate Prison Camps providing services and labor on DoD installations is VERY much true. We had inmates at Seymour who would provide general cleaning services and labor at our Fighter Squadron when I was going through training there. They were a regular fixture at the squadron, although I don't remember if they used the same people or not. I believe Corry Station near Pensacola did the same thing--they did have a prison camp there in any case.

I always thought this to be an "iffy" idea -- especially since we at the time were doing major construction and refurbishment of the building and they had access to much of the building with minimal or no supervision while doing their thing. 9/11 was still well in the future, but I could have seen a scenario where prisoners were bribed or somehow contacted by adversaries to plant electronic devices in a "secure" fighter squadron which handled sensitive information. At the very least, they knew of who was there and had access (via observation) to flying schedules posted on the board, personnel, rosters, deployments, activities, potentially overhearing folks talking, etc.

I believe the folks they chose for the labor respresented a minimal threat to the personnel (this was pre-9/11) but might have been used as an information source. Then again, they might have been patriotic prisoners and any of this concern for naught.

Anyway, in the grand scheme of things they would have been able to do relatively minor damage to our nations' security compared to the joker we currently have in the White House who at this point seems determined not only to destroy our liberty and economy at home but also seems to me to be sabotaging our military operations on foreign shores and war on terror. Can't tell if it's deliberate or just plain incompetence, but does it matter ?

[LarryO1970]

TXplt ... quite frankly, I see that as an INFOSEC and OPSEC issue, strange that wasn't an issue. Heck ... if anyone was willing to pay for information ... bad things happen.

... when I was in Saudi, we didn't trust the TCN's (rightfully so, they were being pumped for information on the Gen's schedule) ... I'm sure that was that same feeling with regard to these prisoners.

Larry O

[TXplt]

^ forgot about the TCN's around the SOC and billeting. I remember one guy who always was trying to get a few extra bucks and we'd get laundry done as well or shoes shined, etc. They might've had full access to the rooms for cleaning and stuff as well -- can't remember -- but it was a deployed location (s) and I guess was one of those things you don't think about until after the fact. These were pretty regular and the same folks and I'd have though would have been a valuable source of info -- kind of the "under the radar but always around" guys that cold war movies were made about. Yep, we had discussed both but the situation didn't change. This was all pre 9/11 but to me was one of those "common sense" things. Nothing against prisoners or TCN's it's just for most of the places where they were it'd have been hard to have someone just "walk in" from the outside -- on base they'd have needed an escort.

Thanks !

[Windwalker]

Appears that the Government about has all its ducks in a row. When they get ready, then we will see Martial Law. You can throw away your tinfoil hats as it is probably too late for them to do any good.

[LiveToShoot]

Originally Posted by Windwalker

Appears that the Government about has all its ducks in a row. When they get ready, then we will see Martial Law. You can throw away your tinfoil hats as it is probably too late for them to do any good.

However, when it's smack in front of their faces,...

...there'll be so many sheeple still having a hard time waking up:

http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/hum...p-hard-do.html (Waking Up Is Hard To Do)

[Dodahdude]

That was a good one. Thanks for closing the thread with a light heart'ed (He He) note...... Admin. Please close this thread.

[SwedeSteve]

Why don't we house them in abandoned missile silos ??