took my 43 izzy to the range with my rental m1, 10/22 and xdm9 yesterday. the new guns shot as expected. mil surps had issues. see the garand forum for that issue.
the izzy is shooting at the 4-5 oclock about 7 in. at 50 or so yds. i correct this how? i assume drifting the front sight to the right a bit? being low is just a result of being at the 200yd battle zero right? the front sight has an indexing mark on it and its lined up. i always thought the mark was placed on there from rearsenal. is this correct? should i look at another problem such as a worn barrel? i havent slugged either of my mosins. was shooting bulgy lightball from the same spam can
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Drift that sight to the right and raise the rear sight a notch. The vodka must have had an affect on the guy who adjusted the sights.
Be happy the rifle does not shoot too high. That's an all too common problem that's more difficult to correct.
Different ammo may shoot to a different point of impact. That may be another option for you.
Good call Ken.
Twitch 2120, Yes you can use a hammer and punch to drift the sight,if you use a brass punch your less likely to marr the sight. You can get brass punches at Northern Tool. Good luck.
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Tried it with the bayonet on? Most of these rifles were zeroed with bayonets on which does affect POI. Mine did, but since I seldom take it to the range with a bayonet I drifted the front sight too.
im not super concerned about the up down. just the left right. i didnt think it was that far off. ive shot it at 25 before and it wasnt noticeable. im begining to wonder if my barrel is on its last legs. ill drift the sight and see what happens. whats the overall length with the bayo? makes for a retarded long rifle. no wonder the russians wanted a carbine
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LOL, yeah, the M91/30 full length is 48 1/2 inches, the bayonet adds ~16 inches for a grand total of 64 inches plus or minus 1/2 inch or 5 1/3 foot tall. I keep the bayonet off, cuts down on the holes in the ceiling, overhead liner in truck, etc.
By all means, zero the rifle without the bayo if that's the way you want to shoot it.
I have some wooden jaw pads for my vice to hold the rifle when I perform this task. There's no hidden screws to deal with on a 91/30 sight, just the punch marks the Soviets used to stake it in place. When I get the sight where you want it, you can re-punch with a screwdriver or chisel to hold it in place.
Don't give up on it twitch, it just takes a little TLC and experimentation.
What were your shot groupings with that Bulgy LB anyway?
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Just a little drift will do ya @ 100 yds though. I'm definitely not good enough at math to be able to determine the exact measurement you'd need to drift it (however, there was a discussion a while back, bobvknob(?) I think it was had an equation to figure it out) but a little goes a long ways. Then its just a matter of dialing it in. Good luck, let us know how it turns out.
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If you have empty brass around 9mm size you can take a "C" clamp and put it on one side of the sight and then use the clamp to push the sight towards the brass. No punching involved and you can move it incrementally. Put the empty brass (9mm/45cal) on the side you want the sight to move towards and then spread the c clamp from the sight to the base of the brass. Slowly closing the clamp will move your sight as long as the "ears" at the base of the front sight haven't gone flush with the base itself.
I took my 91-30 to the range yesterday with 4 different kinds of ammo.
At 100 yards each kind hit in a different place, I was shooting 5 shot groups with a 7 power scope. The 182 grain stuff was high center and a second 182 grain was even higher and centered.
Some copper washed 149 was a little low right and some 149 lacquered boattail was even farther low and right. So about 1" high, 3" high, 2" low right and 5" low right.
