[roggom]

So flame, what did you pick up?

[Flaming Day]

Got some 203 ordered.Most deer round here push bout 200lbs max.There's a 6 pointer round my parents place alot.Haven't had much of a chance to hunt.Drumline practice takes up most of my afterschool.On Thanksgiving Break now so no practice.I like my position too much to skip practice though.

[Flaming Day]

What are the legalites of hunting with a bayonet attached?

[99dragon99]

That's going to be dependent upon where you hunt. Check the local regs and post that question in your state forum.

In Minn it's legal according to the thread. Since the DNR never responded I will assume this is true.

[texnmidwest]

I don't live in Minnesota but I thought it was a shotgun only state?

[99dragon99]

I think that would be Ohio. Minnesota is an all out state. I just looked through the regs again and the minimum caliber for big game is .220.

[Mike82]

indiana is also a shotgun/primitive firearms state....but i heard that they are soon going to let pre-ummm i forgot the year again, dangit(pre-1898?) rifles be used, they are classifying them as primitive.

[Tha Dave]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Cyrano

You've probably heard the one about the AR shooter, the AK shooter and the Mosin shooter talking about hunting squirrels. "I shot a squirrel with my AR-15. I'm having roast squirrel for dinner!" "I shot a squirrel with my AK-47. I'm having squirrel stew." "I shot a squirrel with my Mosin Nagant. I think the tail's around here somewheres..."

I shot a squirrel with a M44 when i was younger it was about waist high on a small tree and i could only see its head on one side of the tree and its tail on the other, so i shot through the tree. Killed the squirrel and the tree. I though my grandpa was going kick my ass for sure that time but he just laughed and asked if he could borrow that rifle for hunting deer and hogs.

There was nothing left of the squirrel to eat.

[gandog56]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Tha Dave

I shot a squirrel with a M44 when i was younger it was about waist high on a small tree and i could only see its head on one side of the tree and its tail on the other, so i shot through the tree. Killed the squirrel and the tree. I though my grandpa was going kick my ass for sure that time but he just laughed and asked if he could borrow that rifle for hunting deer and hogs. There was nothing left of the squirrel to eat.

Somewhere, Bullwinkle is crying.

[MLN1963]

Quote:       Originally Posted by texnmidwest

I don't live in Minnesota but I thought it was a shotgun only state?

If I recall correctly it depends on where in MN you are hunting. I think up north and parts of southern MN you can use a rifle. In central MN where I was from it is shot gun only. At least it was nearly 30 years ago when I lived there.

[Whootsinator]

Pre-1898 would be considered antiques by the BATFE, so that date would make sense.

[Mosin Shooter]

^huh? you see, thats why politicians don't make sense, just cuz its older than their grandparents, that don't mean it can't shoot good(but don't tell them that anyway)

that whole division of states into rifle/shotgun is what i hate about NY. One lousy county south and I could use a rifle. I still can't wait for the rifle use legislation come up in this area. Two other counties that used to be shotgun got added to the rifle list this year.

[codeNshoot]

Has anyone here taken an animal this year with their Mosin ? pics if you've go em.

[WisconsinHunter]

Silver Bear 203gr SP, never stood a chance.

[gandog56]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Mosin Shooter

^huh? you see, thats why politicians don't make sense, just cuz its older than their grandparents, that don't mean it can't shoot good(but don't tell them that anyway) that whole division of states into rifle/shotgun is what i hate about NY. One lousy county south and I could use a rifle. I still can't wait for the rifle use legislation come up in this area. Two other counties that used to be shotgun got added to the rifle list this year.

Here we go for lawyers again. Since a 91/30 receiver was designed in 1891, would that make it legal to use? Even though it may have been manufactured later?

[Cyrano]

Quote:       Originally Posted by gandog56

Here we go for lawyers again. Since a 91/30 receiver was designed in 1891, would that make it legal to use? Even though it may have been manufactured later?

No. The gummint goes by the manufacture date as determined by date stamp or serial number. By your rationale, because the AK-47 was first issued in 1947 an AK that was made last week would be buyable with a C&R license and could be shipped to your home. We all know that does not work.

Now, if you had a hex receiver Cossack rifle with a pre-1898 manufacture date, in theory you might be able to get away with hunting with it under the antique weapon rule. Likewise, if you had a first-year Gewehr 98 rifle. In practice, I don't know if I'd care to take a chance like that. Under the letter of the law, you'd be within your rights; but when the legislators who don't know the difference between a buttplate and their buttholes used the words "antique firearm" in the law, they were using it as a synonym for "blackpowder firearm."

You could probably get away with using a Martini-Henry in .303 British that was handloaded with black powder propellant in the cartridge. You might be able to get away with using a Krag-Jorgenson. But a Model 1891 Mosin with a pre-1898 date shooting Prvi Partizan softpoints is definitely pushing your luck. You could easily end up in court, having to pay a lawyer who specializes in gun law several thousand dollars to prove your rifle complied with the letter of the law and that you therefore committed no crime. Me, I wouldn't take the chance.

[AK Hunter]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Mike82

indiana is also a shotgun/primitive firearms state....but i heard that they are soon going to let pre-ummm i forgot the year again, dangit(pre-1898?) rifles be used, they are classifying them as primitive.

Where did you get your info?
We use shotguns with slugs, muzzle loaders, muzzle loading pistols, & pistols.
As far as I know just last year they started using rifles that shoot a pistol cal.
Out of the regs book.

Rifles with cartridges that fire a bullet of
.357-inch diameter or larger; have a minimum
case length of 1.16 inches; and have
a maximum case length of 1.625 inches are
legal to use only during the deer firearm season.
Some cartridges legal for deer hunting
include the .357 Magnum, .38-.40 Winchester,
.41 Magnum, .41 Special, .44 Magnum,
.44 Special, .44-.40 Winchester, .45
Colt, .454 Casull, .458 SOCOM,
.475 Linebaugh, .480 Ruger, .50

Action Express, and .500 S&W.

Nothing about primitive weapons, or old surplus weapons.
I sure would like to hunt with my Mosin as is I have to go out of state to hunt with high power rifles.
Out of state hunting license are a lot of $$$.

[241 Range High]

Quote:       Originally Posted by gandog56

Of course the deer isn't much better. Just resumed eating after the first shot missed?

Deer are weird like that. Last year i had 2 large doe walk right under my stand. Took the first one from 20 yrds away and the other walked like 5 feet forward and just stood there. Needless to say I got 2 deer that day.

[Mike82]

Hey AK Hunter, I had just been up to my uncle's house in Grandview, IN for thanksgiving and he was telling me what he'd heard, that's all. The reason I passed it on, was because he'd also told me he'd heard about the "pistol-cartridged" rifles back about a year or 2 before they were added to the allowed list, so of course, that came true, and so i was just adding what he'd said. Didn't mean to throw anyone off-guard or anything, just stating that I'd heard that they might allow the Pre-1898 rifles to be added, because most(or all as far as the gov't knows)of the pre-1898 rifles used black powder cartridges. I agree though, it would be NICE if they allowed pre-1898 dated rifles to be used. My 08/34 would be oddly illegal/legal. Dated 1889, but when you research the model, it shows that in 1934 the Brazilian gov't had them converted to the US-30 cal of 1906(30-06). Pre-1898 rifle shooting Post-1898 cartridge. You'd have to tread carefully with something like that, kinda hard to disguise the blast as simply a heavy hand load, lol.

[Kismet]

All the regs I investigated were put in place because of population density issues. A slug can't carry as far past its intended target to a populated area and injure a human.

WI was slug around here (SW WI), but went to rifle about five years ago.

No noticeable increase in deer harvest. In fact, this last season, kill was down 30%, I think.

Of course, you'll check. Just not worth the fine and confiscation.