Ft Hood Killer on Obama's Homeland Security Team

[heilung]

This is getting weird. Look at the reference, sure enough he's there. Gross personell mismanagement - most likely, Conspiracy- Are they bright enough to plan something? For our own Safety: Is it Time to Secede Yet?
Heilung
Subject: Ft.Hood Terrorist on Obama's Homeland Security Team
More skeletons in the closet? Janet Nepolatano calls returning soldiers terrorists, but this guy gets hired.
Now we have a little insight into why Obama said to not jump to conclusions about Nidal Hasan and why Congressmen were not briefed before the press leak.
This murdering Muslim Terrorist who killed and wounded the soldiers and civilians at Ft Hood, Texas, Nidal Hasan, was an advisor to Obama's Homeland Security team. Look on page 29 of the Homeland Security Proceedings link below.
How many more skeletons are to come? Who else is there in the government or its numerous advisors or Czars that will harm our country and citizens?
http://www.gwumc.edu/hspi/old/PTTF_P...t_05.19.09.pdf
Go to page number 29, scroll down toward the bottom on the left column. From an anonymous internet source- Heilung

[TACAV]

HSPI | Homeland Security Policy Institute

You can go to the above website and look at the origional PDF files for their statements.

His name is under "Task Force Event Participants"
Ive been to training/ discussion seminars for work as well that required me to RSVP or register. Sometimes you get a big program that lists everyone in attendance. Just because your on the list doesn't mean you were part of the instructional group or speakers.

Sounds like the same thing here.

Homeland Security Policy Institute Statement on Nidal Hasan
November 19, 2009

In his capacity as Disaster & Preventive Psychiatry Fellow at the Uniformed Services University School of Medicine, Nidal Hasan registered (RSVP'd) to attend as an audience member a number of Homeland Security Policy Institute (HSPI) events in the period June 2008 to February 2009. All of these events were open to the public.

Our Presidential Transition Task Force Events were open to the public and invitations were shared with numerous government departments and agencies, including senior officials at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences (USUHS). These senior leaders at USUHS in turn shared the invitation with their subordinates, including Hasan.

At no time has Nidal Hasan been affiliated with HSPI or The George Washington University. He has never served as an HSPI Task Force Member, briefer, or featured speaker at an HSPI event.

HSPI's Presidential Transition Task Force is not and was not affiliated with any Administration; and was created prior to the election.

[PfcDavid_Kocher]

Janet Nepolatano calls returning soldiers terrorists

that sounds familiar I remember when i was flying back from BCT and one woman at the Memphis airport called me a baby killer. Cause my one set of civilian clothes didnt fit anymore and had to wear my ACU's

[Rambo]

Originally Posted by PfcDavid_Kocher

that sounds familiar I remember when i was flying back from BCT and one woman at the Memphis airport called me a baby killer. Cause my one set of civilian clothes didnt fit anymore and had to wear my ACU's

I flew all over this country in my dress greens and was surprised all the times people would offer to buy my coffee or meal and that was during VietNam. I must've flown with a better class of Americans. Even the Hari Krishnas would talk to me and offer me books to buy.

[Seabeescotty]

I received enough poisonous slurs and vitriol to last me a lifetime, when flying in uniform. It was especially bad when I got back from Nam, in the wonderful state of California.

[Cyrano]

Gents, you all ought to seek out and read a book called Homecoming: When the Soldiers Returned From Vietnam, by Bob Greene.

Greene, 15 years after the fact, was attempting to prove or disprove what was regarded as an urban myth by the mainstream media: that GIs were spat upon by long-haired hippie-type pinko war protesters in airports when they came back to the USA after a tour in Southest Asia. He wrote a column about it and was inundated by mail, some from ex-soldiers claiming they were spit on and others saying the story was hogwash. He realized there was more to this story than discovering whether it was an urban myth.

He put ads in major American newspapers, seeking information from people asking that they state who, when, what, where, how; and if known, why. As before, he got a ton of letters. He went through them, weeding out the obvious dreck and cranks; then wrote to the ones whose letters had made the cut, asking for details of their military service. He repeated the process on those who wrote back, tossing any letter that didn't ring true. Of the remaining letters, he chose the ones that seemed the most honest, and had a friend in the VA discreetly check out the writers to determine that they had in fact served in Vietnam. Then he assembled the letters into book form.

You can't tell what Greene thought about America's involvement in Vietnam. His role in this book is rather like the Stage Manager in Our Town. He provides connectivity and continuity, but he lets the letters speak for themselves without any comments from him. The book has four sections: "I was spit on;" "I wasn't spit on;" "This is how I was treated when I got home;" and a section for letters that didn't fit in the other categories but that Greene felt were important.

Greene leaves no doubt that there were incidents in which servicemen and -women were spat upon, egged, splashed with drinks and worse. The phenomenon was worst on the West Coast, particularly in San Francisco and Los Angeles but was not restricted to those locations. The tenor of the book in the main was that the "spitting" on the soldiers was not so much literal, but metaphorical. The larger society blamed the soldiers and not the politicians for the war, and for the fact we were unable to win it as America defines winning.

Some of the stories make you angry that anyone would so mistreat our troops. A couple where the protesters get a well deserved comeuppance will make you say, "YEAH!" And there are a couple that will break your heart. Whatever you feel about the Vietnam War, this book will make you think.

One thing I can say we as a nation have learned since Homecoming was published is to put the blame for how you feel about a conflict on the politicians where it belongs, not on our troops who go where they are told to go and to fight where and when they are told to fight. I feel that Greene's book is a seminal work in changing that point of view. That's another reason to read it. He did good with this book.

[GlockMeister]

It wouldn't surprise me any. It seems that when it comes to Obama and Obama's crew/administration or anyone else and anywhere he's put someone in place that its' as if the vetting process never existed.

[billy]

Originally Posted by heilung

This is getting weird. Look at the reference, sure enough he's there. Gross personell mismanagement - most likely, Conspiracy- Are they bright enough to plan something? For our own Safety: Is it Time to Secede Yet?
Heilung
Subject: Ft.Hood Terrorist on Obama's Homeland Security Team
More skeletons in the closet? Janet Nepolatano calls returning soldiers terrorists, but this guy gets hired.
Now we have a little insight into why Obama said to not jump to conclusions about Nidal Hasan and why Congressmen were not briefed before the press leak.
This murdering Muslim Terrorist who killed and wounded the soldiers and civilians at Ft Hood, Texas, Nidal Hasan, was an advisor to Obama's Homeland Security team. Look on page 29 of the Homeland Security Proceedings link below.
How many more skeletons are to come? Who else is there in the government or its numerous advisors or Czars that will harm our country and citizens?
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Go to page number 29, scroll down toward the bottom on the left column. From an anonymous internet source- Heilung

how exactly are you going to secede?
are you going to declare your yard a country?

[.22hustler]

Originally Posted by PfcDavid_Kocher

that sounds familiar I remember when i was flying back from BCT and one woman at the Memphis airport called me a baby killer. Cause my one set of civilian clothes didnt fit anymore and had to wear my ACU's

Same thing happened to me, except it was in Newark Airport in New Jersey. I just ets'ed from Fort Dix and was waiting for a very early morning flight.Two dudes, one drunk as a skunk, started in on me, the drunk one that is. The drunk called me a baby killer also, and the sober one managed to get the situation in control. Jeees, all I wanted to do was to go HOME!!

[jtuck]

Originally Posted by billy

how exactly are you going to secede?
are you going to declare your yard a country?

Sure billy...if enough people secede, we can build bridges from one yard to another and go visit each other with ever stepping foot on American soil!

Disclaimer: I am fiercely patriotic, those of you who have met me can vouch for that. I was simply making a point.

[Bigfoot]

Anyone who bashes combat veterans of any war, in my book, is a piss - ant period! How many good sons, daughters, mothers , and fathers, have paid the ultimate price for our freedoms. I did not serve , lottery draft and a girlfriend swayed my decision at the time, but i have always felt a sense of guilt every time i heard of another combat casualty. These soldiers carry the emotional greusome horrors of war, and are not a source of redicule, especially when being used as whoopie - cushions, to protest discontent for the decisions made for them by their superiors. Some people just have no respect period!

[Big Dog]

I was in school during the Vietnam years, enlisting myself in 1975. Most of my schoolmates were deathly afraid of getting drafted upon graduating - and this was well after the end of the Vietnam War and the military was downsizing. When I first turned 18 and went to sign for the Selective Service, I was literally turned away by the folks who were supposed to be signing us up! They told me, "Don't bother, we aren't drafting any more!" Heck, I thought it was a FEDERAL LAW!?
My classmates also couldn't tell you just where "Vietnam, Republic Of" was even located - they were geographically illiterate. I knew, I had studied it, being intensely interested in all things military. Later in the service, I travelled between duty stations in uniform - found most folks friendly and supportive of the military. I personally saw no hatred of the GI's by that time (late 70's) - but this was East coast, small towns. Different world, I guess.

[stickhauler]

To me in SF International when I was going to Fort Campbell after basic at Fort Ord, a cute young thing came up and spit dead in my face. After getting through over there, served in permanent party at Fort Campbell, you didn't wear uniforms off post, you either got hassled or dead. We averaged 2-4 GI's found robbed and killed after every payday just off post somewhere, usually more down towards Tennessee than in Kentucky.

I pray we never see a day that a young man or woman who chose to serve their country gets treated like they did to my generation's service members. I read Bob Greene's book when it came out as I had always respected his writing, and had heard the debate about whether the mistreatment of soldiers was real or an urban legend for a long time. It was real, and that fact makes me sad to this day. Sad because in addition to draftees during that era, there were many just like me who felt serving their country was a responsibility that every able-bodied young man should do simply as a partial payment for the blessing of being born into the greatest country in the free world.

[killsnapz]

It is amazing that there are still people out there that are so dumb that they think sptting on a soilder whoses was drafted into war is they way to make a difference in this world. It makes as much sense as the right to lifers that kill people to stop them from performing abortions. I must kill someone to stop them from killing. can you say hypocrite!!
If I personally witnessed someone hasseling a soilder in uniform I would definetely step in and back him/her up in a second. That is definetely one of the things that would set me off on a butt kicking mission. I do'nt think it happens much up here in New England. I hear alot of stories from California about soilders being hasseled. just one more reason to hope that state falls into the ocean soon.

Michael

[wideym]

When I returned from Iraq, I was put in Medical Hold at Ft. Sill due to injuries I didn't think were too serious but were. Most of everybody else told the doctors there was nothing wrong with them, even if there was just to get home that day instead of having to stay a couple of months at Sill for tests.

After nearly three weeks without seeing home yet, we were given a 4 day pass, so I rented a car to drive home (only a few hours away). As soon as we were released from the final formation of the day I jumped in my car still wearing my DCUs and headed home. I had to stop at a rest stop for a latrine break and when I returned to my car 2 twentysomething slacker types started heading towards me spouting "No blood for oil", "Bush lied", and other Shehan slogans really agressively.

When they were about 20 feet away I asked them if they were carrying a gun and they had a pinched "who farted" look on their face and replyed "Of course not, what kind of people do you think were are?" Since I didn't have a gun either, I pulled my ASP baton out, extending it and said "Good" as I advanced toward them.

They hauled ass back to their Expedition were it looked like their girlfriend was waiting and took off. I think they were just trying to impress the girl with them or maybe they were just idiots trying to impress themselves.

[SightNSqueeze]

I guess today's experiences by OEF-OIF/GWT veterans are still pretty much what Greene wrote about concerning veterans of the Vietnam War. It just depends on the time and place. I was too young to serve during Vietnam, but where I grew up in southwestern Virginia, you would think it was 1945 all over again the way returning vets were revered and well treated. We knew though that was not the case in other parts of the country. When I was old enough to join, the NVA had just rolled into Saigon and the 7th Fleet was collecting the initial South Vietnamese refugees in the South China Sea. We were hearing about it while I was at Recruit Naval Training Command-Orlando.

My own experiences with the public during active duty were pleasant. We were always offered rides and we were sometimes greeted by friendly strangers here and abroad. Years later, shortly after the 2003 invasion of the Iraq, I witnessed a mixture of staunch public support and "some" curbside demonstrations outside of Hunter Army Airfield in Savannah, Georgia. From that time forward, most opposition to the Iraq War was just mumbled about by bitter people, more against President Bush than the Global War on Terror. In fact, most of the bitter language is said from the safety of people's keyboards than in airport terminals or other public places. Likewise, when I departed Fort Bliss with Defense Department and Army personnel bound for Iraq via Kuwait in the fall of 2006, we were given a grand sendoff complete with a colonel and his staff saluting our departing plane as we rolled onto the flight line. Similarly, we were showered with cards and gifts from the American people when we were downrange. The only hateful language we heard was from news commentaries and leftist politicians who routinely bashed the president and our efforts, all while saying “we support the troops.” Now that the Iraq War has come to a successful conclusion and one that I saw coming when I left western Iraq in 2007, there is little said about it.

Now the very people who were chanting "Afghanistan First" and "Let's Get Osama bin Laden" during the Iraq War are the very people against the Afghan War. While I don't support Barack Obama and his "time table approach" to fighting wars, I do hope that we are as successful in Afghanistan as were in Iraq. Regardless, I fully support our troops and I pray for a stunning victory over the enemy. I am confident that any victory will be in spite of this president, but yes, he can share in it too ...

[Rave]

I don't think the gummint ever wanted Bin Laden,they needed,and still need a boogyman!
It was and still is the Saudies that teach hate America in their schools and the kids don't have to work thanks to American oil dollars so they get bored and join up with some crazy groups and go after us.
Who were the participants in 911,Saudies for the most part.
Who is blamed for it and just about everything else,Bin Laden,another Saudi.
Who did president Bush take care of first,the royal Saudi families,they were flown safely out of our contry first *&$&( thing.
Who do we get most of our oil from,and much higher prices than other countries,the Saudies.
Who do we cherish more than any other countries,Israel and,of course Saudi Arabia.
Big business is surely the ring master!
I also have thought that Homeland "security" could be a dangerious thing in the wrong hands.