Hello everyone, kinda new round here. I was wondering about what range would my .22-250 lose its ability to effectivelly get a clean kill on say a coyote?
If you are talking 1in14" twist and just killing ability,not hitting ability,I would say a clean kill can be made at 700yds using a 50gr boattail leaving the muzzle at 3800fps.It still has 268ft lbs energy which is plenty.The problem is sighted dead on at 300yds,the bugger drops about 78",s at 700yds.(besides a 90% breeze at 10mph would push it about 55",s. ,,,sam.
If you are talking 1in14" twist and just killing ability,not hitting ability,I would say a clean kill can be made at 700yds using a 50gr boattail leaving the muzzle at 3800fps.It still has 268ft lbs energy which is plenty.The problem is sighted dead on at 300yds,the bugger drops about 78",s at 700yds.(besides a 90% breeze at 10mph would push it about 55",s. ,,,sam.
First off there aren't ten guys on this website that can see a coyote at 700 yds, much less hit him with any rifle. In a 10 MPH wind most would be lucky to hit a 55 gallon oil drum at 700 yds with a 50 gr .223 dia bullet!
I have killed a lot of coyotes with a 22-250 at 250-300 yds but if you don't hit them right they will take off like you just built a fire in their butts, and in most rocky cactus covered hills you will likely loose him.
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I live in the Texas Panhandle where wind is usually a big factor. When they say forty to fifty mile per hour gusts it is not a joke.
Personally, unless you had a very high dollar/high power scope and a target barrel I would not put it at much over 150 yards in the Texas Panhandle. Note: in the plains you are pretty much always going to be shooting at a moving coyote so this is a big factor besides wind.
Remember, the bullet is fast but it is also light in weight.
However, let us consider the fact that a coyote is not a big target so in any environment you will have assess your ability to see a coyote in the first place.
First off there aren't ten guys on this website that can see a coyote at 700 yds, much less hit him with any rifle. In a 10 MPH wind most would be lucky to hit a 55 gallon oil drum at 700 yds with a 50 gr .223 dia bullet!
I have killed a lot of coyotes with a 22-250 at 250-300 yds but if you don't hit them right they will take off like you just built a fire in their butts, and in most rocky cactus covered hills you will likely loose him.
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I am glad we have another "EXPERT" on here.But to burst your bubble,the question was not whether the shot could be made,(altho I have done it with a .22-250 at 600yds.50gr Hornady vmax,mv-3800fps.)(also,I have no problem seeing things as small as PD,s at 700yds+ with a scope like 6X24X40/50mm.Have you ever applied for dissability?I think you could get it if your vision is that impaired.)Anyway,tback to the question.The answer is the energy is still high enough to kill a coyote at 700yds+,268lbs.I left questions as to whether the shot could be made easily."BUT",I know if a shooter set up for the shot it could be made fairly easily.I have shot many prairie dogs around 500yds and headshot woodchucks at that range.And I was using a rangefinder or I probably would have missed.(possibly made a body shot).If you are saying I am a liar,you should get your facts straight first.I only said the .22-250 would kill a yote at 700yds.If you are having a personal problem hitting beyond your specified 250/300yds,there are lots of videos out to help you with your shooting and nra has instructors available.I am sorry to hear you aren't a good shot but if you practice,you will improve.Unless your eyesight is really that bad. ,,,sam.
I live in the Texas Panhandle where wind is usually a big factor. When they say forty to fifty mile per hour gusts it is not a joke.
Personally, unless you had a very high dollar/high power scope and a target barrel I would not put it at much over 150 yards in the Texas Panhandle. Note: in the plains you are pretty much always going to be shooting at a moving coyote so this is a big factor besides wind.
Remember, the bullet is fast but it is also light in weight.
However, let us consider the fact that a coyote is not a big target so in any environment you will have assess your ability to see a coyote in the first place.
Nathan,I feel da** sorry for you and anyone else that never learned to interperate a question.The question was never about hitting the da** coyote,only whether it could be killed if it was hit.And don't give me that BS about 150yd max for Texas.I have shot beyond 400yds in west Texas and the natives do it on a regular basis a lot easier than I do.Do you really believe West Texas is the only place on earth the wind causes problems? ,,,sam.
First off there aren't ten guys on this website that can see a coyote at 700 yds, much less hit him with any rifle. In a 10 MPH wind most would be lucky to hit a 55 gallon oil drum at 700 yds with a 50 gr .223 dia bullet!
I have killed a lot of coyotes with a 22-250 at 250-300 yds but if you don't hit them right they will take off like you just built a fire in their butts, and in most rocky cactus covered hills you will likely loose him.
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I doubt I could see them at 700 yards with the naked eye, hell I have problems past 300 yards...
Well, perhaps I can soon retire and invite you to the Texas Panhandle where I will be most axious to see you hit, much less kill a coyote at a distance of over 150 yards in a gusting crosswind with any .22 caliber weapon of your choice.
Note: I was raised in West Texas and it is different than the Panhandle.
Im not worried about wind, the fact that coyotes move almost constantly is more of a problem. 500 meters iron sights 40 mph gusts was never a problem. I was a trained designated marksman
Thats why they Make good rifle scopes...So you can see a Target and take a shot at long distances...IF you know your rifle and ammo...Good Response USMC grunt !
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I am glad we have another "EXPERT" on here.But to burst your bubble,the question was not whether the shot could be made,(altho I have done it with a .22-250 at 600yds.50gr Hornady vmax,mv-3800fps.)(also,I have no problem seeing things as small as PD,s at 700yds+ with a scope like 6X24X40/50mm.Have you ever applied for dissability?I think you could get it if your vision is that impaired.)Anyway,tback to the question.The answer is the energy is still high enough to kill a coyote at 700yds+,268lbs.I left questions as to whether the shot could be made easily."BUT",I know if a shooter set up for the shot it could be made fairly easily.I have shot many prairie dogs around 500yds and headshot woodchucks at that range.And I was using a rangefinder or I probably would have missed.(possibly made a body shot).If you are saying I am a liar,you should get your facts straight first.I only said the .22-250 would kill a yote at 700yds.If you are having a personal problem hitting beyond your specified 250/300yds,there are lots of videos out to help you with your shooting and nra has instructors available.I am sorry to hear you aren't a good shot but if you practice,you will improve.Unless your eyesight is really that bad. ,,,sam.
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BIG WIND COME FROM EMPTY CAVE!
I never said anything about you! You seem to be a little paranoid!
Well young gentelman, now that you started with the insults............,
I never claimed to be an "EXPERT", but you seem to think you are,going by your diatribe about your fabulous ability with your imaginary rifles, with all the crap you got out of those load manuals, and gun rag magazines, because your post above seems to say you can't be wrong about anything. I never called you anything much less a liar, that was your word, not mine.
There is something you need to learn that you seem to have missed. these forums are for the exchange of ideas, and nobody is required to agree with your OPINION, eventhough you seem to think it is a sin to disagree with you, but it's OK to disagree and throw insults from behind the safety of a keyboard at anyone who disagrees with you. Saying things you wouldn't dare say to people face to face. You know, barking from behind a keyboard at anyone who calls into question your opinion on anything. Folks who get sarcastic, when someone disagrees with them, tend to be a people who just got embarrassed, and have nothing but insults to back thier THEORY.
"OTHERS SELDOM SEE US AS WE SEE OURSELVES". I believe your opinion of your worth is a lot higher than others rank it. ( EXPERTESE ) That's what you claim to have, You know that you got from all those gun magazines.
There are a number of folks who can hit P-dogs at long range from a portable benchrests on a dog town, with the use of accurate range finders, with heavy barreled rifles with large scopes. However,most of them are not shooting 22-250s. To top that off I doubt you will see many coyote hunters shooting from a portable bench with a rifle sporting a 6X24x40/50 MM scope. The 22-250 is a good cartridge, but it isn't magic.
Getting my facts straight is not my problem but it seems to be your's.
As far as someone haveing to teach me to shoot, maybe you would like to try to teach me, how you shoot your keyboard , and Ill shoot a real rifle, and we will wait for the wind to stop so it wont effect your keyboard's flight path to the target. Most likely if there is no wind, you will be hitting humming birds at 1000 yds. Those computers are very accurate, but real rifles require a shooter! I sure wish I could afford one like yours. You are right about one thing though, 268 FPE is enough to kill a coyote if you happen to hit him in the vitals, but for some strange reason I don't think many coyotes need to worry much about your key board producing even 268 FPE to hurt him much.
I'Z off to the GUVMINT OFFICE TO GITS MY DIS BILTY CHECK FO MY EYE ZAM, sos I kin shoot lak yew! In closing, don't forget to adjust the trigger on that computer son!
The question was concerning the effective killing range of the 22-250, and used a coyote as the example. Samuel and Thrillbilly were dead on. The OP was asking only about effective distance, not whether a crosswind or poor eyesight would diminish the "kill-ability" of the round.
Thanks for the compliments,I am lousy on a computer,take three magazines out,and just turned 70.Are you mad?You seem to be.Maybe you need some stress management lessons too. ,,,sam.
USMC, I just put a Nikkon Buckmasters 6-18x40 on my Rem 22-250. It was on sale at Midway (still is, I think) for $299. It's very nice and I would recommend it to another, but I think there are better and more capable for 500 yard shots. Maybe a Bushnell Elite 4200 with up to 24x, or a Leupold, or Nikkon, etc, but I would look at 20x or 24x plus. For me though, they're too "shaky" at maximum magnification.
